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Comparatifs
Message de aimen7 posté le 22-09-2005 à 14:46:39 (S | E | F | I)
Bonjour,
Une question posée par prunette à propos des comparatifs me fait penser qu'on devrait quand même faire une petite révision à ce sujet là.
Alors je vous propose de traduire ces phrases:
1-Le plus jeune des deux fils est étudiant en droit, l'aîné est déjà avocat.
2-Il est de plus en plus difficile de trouver un appartement à Paris.
3-Il est tout aussi rusé que son adversaire.
4-Il y a deux fois plus de monde sur cette plage que l'année dernière.
5-Cet hiver a été plus froid que d'habitude.
6-Il n'est pas aussi généreux que son frère.
7-C'est tout aussi important.
8-Il n'est pas aussi bon danceur que Fred Astaire.
9-C'est plus large que long.
10-Notre jardin est moitié moins grand que le votre.

Bon courage, correction mardi prochain.

Réponse: Comparatifs de magmatic_rock, postée le 22-09-2005 à 15:38:16 (S | E)
Héhé Aimen c'est gentil de penser à nous!

Allez j'y vais,

1/ The youngest of the both sons study law (or is a student in law), the eldest is already a lawyer.
2/ It's getting more and more difficult to find a flat in Paris. (it is reportedly true!!!)
3/ He is as smart as his opponent.
4/ There are twice more people on this/that beach than last year.
5/ This winter was colder than usual.
6/ He is not as generous as his brother.
7/ It is as much important.
8/ He is not as a good dancer as Fred Astaire.
9/ That's larger than longer.
10/ Our garden is twice smaller than yours. (or Our garden is half less large than yours)

c'était génial comme exercice!

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Edité par magmatic_rock le 22-09-2005 15:53

Réponse: Comparatifs de zen34, postée le 22-09-2005 à 16:49:24 (S | E)
Salut Aimen,

En effet, trés bonne idée d'exo..

1- The younger of the two sons is a student in law; the eldest is already a lawyer.
2- It’s more and more difficult to find a unit in Paris.
3- He is quite as crafty as his opponent
4- There are twice more people in that beach than last year
5- This winter was colder than usual
6- He is not as generous as his brother
7- It’s quite as important
8- He isn’t as a good dancer as Fred Astaire is
9- It’s wider than long
10- Our garden is half as big as yours

Réponse: Comparatifs de post-scriptum, postée le 22-09-2005 à 20:58:21 (S | E)
Good evening my dear Aïmen,

1. The younger of the two is a student in law, the eldest is already a lawyer.
2. It's more and more difficult to find a flat in Paris.
3. He is as cunning as his adversary.
4. There are twice more people on this beach than last year.
5. This winter was colder than usual.
6. He isn't as generous as his brother.
7. It's as much important.
8. He isn't as a good dancer as Fred Astaire is.
9. It's wider than long.
10. Our garden is smaller by half than yours.

Thank you. Friendship and see you.

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Edité par post-scriptum le 22-09-2005 21:00

Réponse: Comparatifs de isa71, postée le 22-09-2005 à 22:21:15 (S | E)
bonsoir Aimen

1-the youngest of the two is a law student;the eldest is already a lawyer
2-it's more and more difficult to find a flat in Paris
3-he is "all" as cunning as his adversary
4-there are twice more people on this beach than last year
5-that winter was colder than usual
6-he isn't as generous as his brother
7-it's as important
8-he isn't as a good dancer as Fred Astaire
9-it's wider than long
10-our garden is half less tall than yours

isa

Réponse: Comparatifs de gewurz, postée le 23-09-2005 à 11:32:15 (S | E)
Bonjour Aimen,

1-The youngest of the two sons studies law, while the eldest is already a lawyer.
2-Findind an apartment in Paris is more and more difficult.
3-He's as crafty as his opponent.
4-This beach is twice as crowded as last year.
5-Last winter was colder than usually.
6- He's not as generous as his brother.
7-It's as much important.
Je tente ceci...
8-He's not as good a dancer as Fred Astaire.
9-It's wider than long.
10-Our garden is half as big as yours.

Réponse: Comparatifs de grabuge, postée le 24-09-2005 à 11:47:41 (S | E)
Hello Aïmen

1- The younger of the two sons is a student in law, the eldest is already a lawyer.
2- Finding a flat in Paris is more and more difficult.
3- He is as crafty as his opponent.
4- There is twice more people in this beach than last year.
5- This winter was colder than usual.
6- He isn't as generous than his brother.
7- It's quite as important.
8- He isn't as good dancer than Fred Astaire.
9- It's wider than long
10- Our garden is half less big than yours.

Merci Aîmen

Réponse: Comparatifs de tubereuse2, postée le 26-09-2005 à 21:46:13 (S | E)
Hello Aimen & everybody,

1-The yongest of the two sons studies law, the eldest is already a lawyer.
2-It's more and more difficult to find a flat in Paris.
3-He is as crafty as his adversary.
4-There are twice more people in this beach than last year.
5-This winter was colder than usual.
6-He isn't as generous as his brother.
7-It's just as important.
8-He isn't as a good dancer as Fred Astaire.
9-It's wider than long.
10-Our garden is half less big than yours.

pour l'exercice et bonne soirée.

Réponse: Comparatifs de aimen7, postée le 27-09-2005 à 19:37:14 (S | E)
Bonsoir tout le monde.
Tout d'abord merci de votre participation à cet exercice, ce qui nous permet une fois de plus de nous plonger dans des explications très utiles.
L'exercice contenait quatre types de comparatifs: Supériorité, infériorité, double comparaison et égalité; c'est justement ce dernier qui nous donne du fil à retordre.

1-Comparatif de supériorité:

1) The youngest of the two sons (is a student in law/studies law), the eldest is already a lawyer/an advocate.
4) There are twice more people on this beach than last year. (this or that, tout dépend du contexte de la phrase: Si la plage est proche ou lointaine dans l'espace). Je suis plus en faveur de "this" car la personne fait une comparaison et constate sur place la différence de population...)
5) This/That winter was colder than usual.
-This winter: la personne décrit l'hiver qui vient de se terminer donc proximité dans le temps.
-That winter: La personne compare deux hivers dans le passé, en conséquence éloignement dans le temps.
-Last winter(l'hiver dernier) irait bien mais c'est le déterminant "cet" qui était demandé.
9) It is more wide than long. (On utilise obligatoirement More quand on compare deux adjectifs quel que soit le nombre de syllabes.

-Le comparatif d'infériorité:

10) Notre jardin est moitié moins grand que le votre.
Our garden is half as big as yours.(comparatif d'égalité).
Our garden is half less big/large than yours.
Our garden is smaller by half than yours.
A noter que "half as big again" veut dire: "moitié plus grand que..."

-Le comparatif d'égalité: AS/SO...AS, tournure négative: Not as/so...as.

3)He is (just/quite) as (cunning/crafty) as his (adversary/opponent).
6)He is not as generous as his brother.
7)It is just as important.
It is quite as important/It is as much important.
8)He is not as/so GOOD A DANCER as Fred Astaire.

Le comparatif d'égalité parfois équivaut en français à un comparatif de supériorité.
Voici un exemple: "This result is twice as unexpected as the previous one, ce résultat est deux fois plus inattendu que le précédent. Dans la formulation anglo-saxonne il arrive souvent qu'au lieu de dire "deux, trois...fois plus..." on remplace par "twice, three times...as...". Là où la distance est la plus grande entre les deux formulations, c'est lorsque pour "deux, trois, quatre...fois moins..." on a comme traduction quelque chose qui correspond à "La moitié, un tiers, un quart...aussi..." cette moitié, ce tiers ou ce quart ne venant pas s'ajouter mais représentant bien une proportion de l'entité de départ (4 fois moins grand=un quart aussi grand).
Ainsi "a fourth as big as..." se traduit par "quatre fois moins grand que...

-La double comparaison:
2)It is more and more difficult to find a flat in Paris.
It is getting more and more difficult to find an appartment in Paris.
Finding a flat in Paris is more and more difficult.

En fin de compte: "It wasn't that bad!"
Rendez-vous au prochain exercice.

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Edité par aimen7 le 27-09-2005 20:15

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