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Message de the_dauphin posté le 2004-11-16 20:40:21 (S | E | F | I)
Salut.

.J’ai eu un test d’anglais avant hier dur dur . Et c’est avec plaisir que je le poste ici pour que vous profitiez vous aussi. Voici l’un des exercices.

Mettez à la forme passive.

1- Many people use this road to travel into London .
2-Thieves stole the plainting yesterday.
3-A crowd of 50.000 welcomed the Queen.
4-The classe gave the teacher a present.
5-You must lock your car at night.
6- People say that he has left the country.
7-People believe that he bribed the police.

voilà pour le 1 exercise .

dauphin a + :

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Edité par bridg le 16-11-2004 20:43
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Réponse: re:The passive de marie37400, postée le 2004-11-16 21:03:26 (S | E)
à toi 'The dauphin' c'est intéressant, car je pense qu'il y a quelques petits pièges !!!!!

1- Many people use this road to travel into London .
This road is used by many people to travel into London.
2-Thieves stole the plainting yesterday.
The painting was stolen yesterday. (I think we don't need to use by... in this case)
3-A crowd of 50.000 welcomed the Queen.
The Queen was welcomed by a crowd of 50 000.
4-The classe gave the teacher a present.
The teacher was given a present by the class. A present was given to the teacher by the class.
5-You must lock your car at night.
Your car must be locked at night.
6- People say that he has left the country.
He is said that he has left the country.
7-People believe that he bribed the police.
He is believed that he bribed the police.

And I long for the next.......
Marie

Réponse: re:The passive de the_dauphin, postée le 2004-11-16 21:30:14 (S | E)
re salut .

merci marie37400.

bon je voudrais savoir est ce que on peut dire pour la

6-He is said to have left the country .
7-He is believed to have bribed the police .

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Edité par bridg le 16-11-2004 23:24

Réponse: re:The passive de kayrol, postée le 2004-11-16 21:34:14 (S | E)
Hello
Je dirais tout comme Marie sauf pour les deux dernières, où je dirais :
6- People say that he has left the country.
=> He is said to have left the country
7-People believe that he bribed the police.
=> He is belived to have bribed the police

Kayrol

Réponse: re:The passive de lucile83, postée le 2004-11-16 21:36:48 (S | E)
Hello,
Dauphin, ce n'est pas ce qu'on peut dire mais ce qu'on doit dire car Marie est dans le faux, désolée Marie !

Le reste est ok;
Bye

Réponse: re:The passive de marie37400, postée le 2004-11-16 22:04:55 (S | E)
I'm terribly sorry. Shame on me about number 6 and 7. I knew it, but I couldn't remember... That's why your exercise is so important !!
Fortunately my dear angels Kayrol and Luclile keep an eye on everything !!!
Cheers
Marie

Réponse: re:The passive de kayrol, postée le 2004-11-16 22:40:46 (S | E)

Kayrol

Réponse: re:The passive de pris444, postée le 2004-11-16 22:51:25 (S | E)
1- Many people use this road to travel into London .
This road is used by many people to travel into London.

2-Thieves stole the plainting yesterday.
The plainting was stolen (by thieves) yesterday.

3-A crowd of 50.000 welcomed the Queen.
The Queen was welcomed by a crowd of 50.000.

4-The class gave the teacher a present.
A present was given by the class to the teacher.
ou The teacher was given a present by the class.

5-You must lock your car at night.
Your car must be locked at night.

6- People say that he has left the country.
He is said to have left the country.

7-People believe that he bribed the police.
He is believed to have bribed the police.

hmmm... pas si évident que ça... surtout pour les deux dernières phrases...
merci beaucoup pour cet exercice!

pris444

Réponse: re:The passive de lucile83, postée le 2004-11-17 07:47:19 (S | E)
Bonjour,
La nuit portant conseil, j'ai élucidé le problème des phrases 6 et 7 :

6- People say that he has left the country.
7-People believe that he bribed the police.

On peut employer le passif en adoptant 2 structures, l'une personnelle, l'autre impersonnelle =
He is said to have left the country ( personnel )
It is said that he has left the country ( impersonnel )

mais en aucun cas
He is said that he has left the country , ce qui en soi ne veut rien dire.

See you soon

Réponse: re:The passive de the_dauphin, postée le 2004-11-17 11:45:59 (S | E)
salut

Je voudrais revenir sur la 6 et les 7 phrases svp je crois que marie37400 N'a pas fait d’erreur et les deux formes s son correcte j’ai la correction de vant moi et la voilà .

et lucile83 est ok avec moi je crois .

Passif : believe, think,say,know,understand.

Avec ces mots deux structures passives sont utilisees dans un style formel.

1- Structure personnelle.
Sujet personnel +verbe au passif+ to- infinitif.
He is believed to be over 100 years old.
She was thought to be dead.
L’infinitif passe s’emploie souvent dans cette structure.
He is known to have lived in London for a time.
2- Structure impersonnelle :
it+verbe au passif +that…….
It is believed that he is over 100 years old.
It has often been said that one picture is worth a thousand words.
It is undersatood that six men escaped by helicopter

dauphin

Réponse: re:The passive de lucile83, postée le 2004-11-17 16:04:41 (S | E)
Désolée Dauphin, relis mon post !
Marie a fait une faute car elle a dit
he is said that he has left...
alors qu'il faut dire en structure impersonnelle:
it ( et pas he !!! ) is said that he has left......

See you soon

Réponse: re:The passive de marie37400, postée le 2004-11-18 11:04:59 (S | E)
Just to say "Thank you" ! I had never noticed the different structures before !!!!
Marie

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