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Message de marie37400 posté le 2004-11-20 18:37:33 (S | E | F | I)
Good evening everybody,
Hela asked some information about some adverbs as intensifiers on the English only forum, so if you would like to have a quick look at this topic ......
and.....
Paying attention to the grammatical structure, for each of the following sentences, fill in the blank with SO, SUCH OR TOO. In some of the sentences, the word that has been omitted.
Hela a demandé des infos au sujets de certains adverbes utilisés comme "intensifiers" sur le forum principal, aussi, si vous voulez y jeter un rapide coup d'oeil et...
en faisant attention à la structure grammaticale, pour chacune des phrases suivantes, remplissez le blanc avec SO, SUCH or TOO. Dans certaines des phrases, le mot "that" a été omis.
1. She sang ________ soothing lullabies that the baby was soon asleep.
2. He owned ________ many books that his walls were lined with bookcases.
3. The boys were _______ excited to sit still.
4. He has ________ varied interests, one never knows what he will do next.
5. They have ________ few enemies, they are accepted wherever they go.
6. The snow was ________ deep for us to walk across the field.
7. Yesterday I walked ________ far that I fell asleep immediately after supper.
8. I had ________ a good time at the party, I did not want to leave.
9. I see her ________ often that I feel I know her quite well.
10. The visibility was ________ poor for the mountains to be seen.
11. This is ________ an interesting book, I stayed up all night to read it.
12. This puzzle is ________ easy that a child could do it.
13. There was ________ much traffic, I could not cross the street.
14. She was ________ tired to watch the video.
15. They have _______ little furniture, it will be easy for them to move.

Voilà, j'espère que vous serez nombreux à participer, même si vous ne "postez" pas, car c'est un point utile ! (Je sais, je pense ça très souvent).
Merci à vous,
Marie

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Modifié par marie37400 le 22-11-2004 10:39

Réponse: re:So, such or too ? de cocoon, postée le 2004-11-20 19:01:39 (S | E)
Bonjour Marie!

1. She sang such soothing lullabies that the baby was soon asleep.
2. He owned so many books that his walls were lined with bookcases.
3. The boys were too excited to sit still.
4. He has so varied interests, one never knows what he will do next.
5. They have so few enemies, they are accepted wherever they go.
6. The snow was too deep for us to walk across the field.
7. Yesterday I walked so far that I fell asleep immediately after supper.
8. I had such a good time at the party, I did not want to leave.
9. I see her so often that I feel I know her quite well.
10. The visibility was too poor for the mountains to be seen.
11. This is such an interesting book, I stayed up all night to read it.
12. This puzzle is so easy that a child could do it.
13. There was too much traffic, I could not cross the street.
14. She was too tired to watch the video.
15. They have so little furniture, it will be easy for them to move

C'est vrai que cet exercice est difficile...
Marie!

Réponse: re:So, such or too ? de lyne, postée le 2004-11-21 15:01:18 (S | E)
Bonjour, exercice difficile

1.She sang so soothing lullabies that the baby was soon asleep.
2.He owned so many books that his walls were lined with bookcases.
3.The boys were so excited to sit still.
4.He has so varied interests, one never knows what he will do next.
5.They have too few enemies, they are accepted wherever they go.
6. The snow was so deep for us to walk across the field.
7.Yesterday I walked so far that I fell asleep immediately after supper.
8.I had too a good time at the party, I did not want to leave.
9.I see her so often that I feel I know her quite well.
10.The visibility was so poor for the mountains to be seen.
11.This is so an interesting book, I stayed up all night to read it.
12. This puzzle is too easy that a child could do it.
13. There was so much traffic, I could not cross the street.
14. She was too tired to watch the video.
15. They have so little furniture, it will be easy for them to move.

Réponse: re:So, such or too ? de gartin, postée le 2004-11-22 11:30:16 (S | E)
Hello Marie

1. She sang SUCH soothing lullabies that the baby was soon asleep.
2. He owned MUCH many books that his walls were lined with bookcases.
3. The boys were TOO excited to sit still.
4. He has SO varied interests, one never knows what he will do next.
5. They have SO few enemies, they are accepted wherever they go.
6. The snow was TOO deep for us to walk across the field.
7. Yesterday I walked SO far that I fell asleep immediately after supper.
8. I had SUCH a good time at the party, I did not want to leave.
9. I see her SO often that I feel I know her quite well.
10. The visibility was TOO poor for the mountains to be seen.
11. This is SUCH an interesting book, I stayed up all night to read it.
12. This puzzle is SO easy that a child could do it.
13. There was TOO much traffic, I could not cross the street.
14. She was TOO tired to watch the video.
15. They have SO little furniture, it will be easy for them to move.

Merci pour cet excellent exercice, not so easy

Réponse: re:So, such or too ? de edith49, postée le 2004-11-22 16:38:12 (S | E)
Bonjour Marie, c'est bien difficile mais allons-y...

1. She sang __such______ soothing lullabies that the baby was soon asleep.
2. He owned ___so_____ many books that his walls were lined with bookcases.
3. The boys were ___too____ excited to sit still.
4. He has ____so____ varied interests, one never knows what he will do next.
5. They have __so______ few enemies, they are accepted wherever they go.
6. The snow was ___too_____ deep for us to walk across the field.
7. Yesterday I walked __so______ far that I fell asleep immediately after supper.
8. I had ___such_____ a good time at the party, I did not want to leave.
9. I see her __so______ often that I feel I know her quite well.
10. The visibility was __too______ poor for the mountains to be seen.
11. This is __such______ an interesting book, I stayed up all night to read it.
12. This puzzle is __so______ easy that a child could do it.
13. There was __too______ much traffic, I could not cross the street.
14. She was ____so____ tired to watch the video.
15. They have ___so____ little furniture, it will be easy for them to move

Réponse: re:So, such or too ? de zen34, postée le 2004-11-22 17:47:13 (S | E)
bonjour Marie,
C'est pas simple du tout, j'ai fait vraiment au hasard...

1. She sang such soothing lullabies that the baby was soon asleep.
2. He owned too many books that his walls were lined with bookcases.
3. The boys were too excited to sit still.
4. He has such varied interests, one never knows what he will do next.
5. They have too few enemies, they are accepted wherever they go.
6. The snow was too deep for us to walk across the field.
7. Yesterday I walked such far that I fell asleep immediately after supper.
8. I had such a good time at the party, I did not want to leave.
9. I see her so often that I feel I know her quite well.
10. The visibility was too poor for the mountains to be seen.
11. This is such an interesting book, I stayed up all night to read it.
12. This puzzle is so easy that a child could do it.
13. There was too much traffic, I could not cross the street.
14. She was too tired to watch the video.
15. They have so little furniture, it will be easy for them to move.

a+,zen34

Réponse: re:So, such or too ? de bridg, postée le 2004-11-22 21:37:41 (S | E)
1. She sang such soothing lullabies that the baby was soon asleep.
2. He owned so many books that his walls were lined with bookcases.
3. The boys were too excited to sit still.
4. He has so varied interests, one never knows what he will do next.
5. They have so few enemies, they are accepted wherever they go.
6. The snow was too deep for us to walk across the field.
7. Yesterday I walked so far that I fell asleep immediately after supper.
8. I had such a good time at the party, I did not want to leave.
9. I see her so often that I feel I know her quite well.
10. The visibility was too poor for the mountains to be seen.
11. This is such an interesting book, I stayed up all night to read it.
12. This puzzle is so easy that a child could do it.
13. There was too much traffic, I could not cross the street.
14. She was too tired to watch the video.
15. They have so little furniture, it will be easy for them to move
Merci

Réponse: re:So, such or too ? de gorgayles, postée le 2004-11-22 21:46:12 (S | E)
1. She sang __SUCH______ soothing lullabies that the baby was soon asleep.
2. He owned ___SO_____ many books that his walls were lined with bookcases.
3. The boys were __SO_____ excited to sit still.
4. He has ___SO_____ varied interests, one never knows what he will do next.
5. They have ___SUCH_____ few enemies, they are accepted wherever they go.
6. The snow was ___SO_____ deep for us to walk across the field.
7. Yesterday I walked ____SO____ far that I fell asleep immediately after supper.
8. I had __SUCH______ a good time at the party, I did not want to leave.
9. I see her ____SO____ often that I feel I know her quite well.
10. The visibility was ____SO____ poor for the mountains to be seen.
11. This is ___TOO_____ an interesting book, I stayed up all night to read it.
12. This puzzle is ____SO____ easy that a child could do it.
13. There was ___SUCH_____ much traffic, I could not cross the street.
14. She was ____SO____ tired to watch the video.
15. They have ____SUCH___ little furniture, it will be easy for them to move.

Je dois avoir beaucoups de fautes car je n'ai pas très bien compris la différence entre ces trois utilisations pourrais- tu faire une petite explication s'il te plaÎT?
et chose promise chose dUE
AU PARTCIPE PASSE LE VERBE DEVOIR NE PREND L'ACCENT QU'AU MASCULIN SINGULIER - "Miss Pernickety"

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Edité par gorgayles le 2004-11-22 22:33:14

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Edité par marie37400 le 23-11-2004 09:18

Réponse: re:So, such or too ? de claire1, postée le 2004-11-22 21:55:05 (S | E)
marie37400
it's very very difficult for me.......

my answers are:

1) she sang such soothing lullabies that the baby was soon asleep

2)he owned so many books that his walls were lined with bookcases

3)the boys were too excited to sit still

4) he has such varied interets,one never knows what he will do next

5) they have such few ennemies,they are accepted wherever they go

6) the snow was too deep for us to walk across the field

7) yesterday I walked so far that I feel asleep inmediately after supper

8) I had such a good time at the party I did not want to leave

9) I see her too often that I know her quite well

10) the visibility was so poor for the mountains to be seen

11) this is such an interesting book I stayed up all night to read it

12)the puzzle is so easy that a child could do it

13) there was too much traffic ,I could not cross the street

14) she was so tired to watch the video

15) they have such little furniture,it will be easy for them to move

thanks
bye
claire1

Réponse: re:So, such or too ? de marit64, postée le 2004-11-23 00:23:44 (S | E)
en faisant attention à la structure grammaticale, pour chacune des phrases suivantes, remplissez le blanc avec SO, SUCH or TOO. Dans certaines des phrases, le mot "that" a été omis.
1. She sang such soothing lullabies that the baby was soon asleep.
2. He owned so many books that his walls were lined with bookcases.
3. The boys were too excited to sit still.
4. He has such varied interests, one never knows what he will do next.
5. They have so few enemies, they are accepted wherever they go.
6. The snow was too deep for us to walk across the field.
7. Yesterday I walked so far that I fell asleep immediately after supper.
8. I had such a good time at the party, I did not want to leave.
9. I see her so often that I feel I know her quite well.
10. The visibility was too poor for the mountains to be seen.
11. This is such an interesting book, I stayed up all night to read it.
12. This puzzle is so easy that a child could do it.
13. There was so much traffic, I could not cross the street.
14. She was too tired to watch the video.
15. They have so little furniture, it will be easy for them to move.

Am I wright or not ? Tell me please.

Réponse: re:So, such or too ? de serena, postée le 2004-11-23 02:01:36 (S | E)
Hello marie !

Let's try !

1. She sang such soothing lullabies that the baby was soon asleep.
2. He owned so many books that his walls were lined with bookcases.
3. The boys were too excited to sit still.
4. He has too varied interests, one never knows what he will do next.
5. They have so few enemies, they are accepted wherever they go.
6. The snow was too deep for us to walk across the field.
7. Yesterday I walked so far that I fell asleep immediately after supper.
8. I had such a good time at the party, I did not want to leave.
9. I see her so often that I feel I know her quite well.
10. The visibility was too poor for the mountains to be seen.
11. This is such an interesting book, I stayed up all night to read it.
12. This puzzle is so easy that a child could do it.
13. There was too much traffic, I could not cross the street.
14. She was too tired to watch the video.
15. They have such little furniture, it will be easy for them to move.

Réponse: re:So, such or too ? de sixa, postée le 2004-11-23 08:29:13 (S | E)
Bonjour Marie

je suis encore en retard....

1. She sang ___SO_____ soothing lullabies that the baby was soon asleep.
2. He owned __SO______ many books that his walls were lined with bookcases.
3. The boys were __TOO_____ excited to sit still.
4. He has _SO_______ varied interests, one never knows what he will do next.
5. They have __TOO______ few enemies, they are accepted wherever they go.
6. The snow was ___TOO_____ deep for us to walk across the field.
7. Yesterday I walked __SO______ far that I fell asleep immediately after supper.
8. I had __SO______ a good time at the party, I did not want to leave.
9. I see her __TOO______ often that I feel I know her quite well.
10. The visibility was __SO______ poor for the mountains to be seen.
11. This is __SO______ an interesting book, I stayed up all night to read it.
12. This puzzle is ___TOO_____ easy that a child could do it.
13. There was __SUCH______ much traffic, I could not cross the street.
14. She was ___SO_____ tired to watch the video.
15. They have ___SUCH____ little furniture, it will be easy for them to move.

Je vais avoir un grand corrigé ....
merci bonne journée

Réponse: re:So, such or too ? de marie37400, postée le 2004-11-23 09:30:38 (S | E)
Bonjour à tous et déjà un grand pour votre participation. Cela fait très plaisir !
Je donnerai la correction et les explications ce soir, au cas où quelques retardataires passeraient "par chez nous"!!!!!
Bonne journée à tous !
Marie

Réponse: re:So, such or too ? de marie37400, postée le 2004-11-23 18:23:57 (S | E)
Bien, l'heure a sonné pour les corrections :
1. She sang SUCH soothing lullabies that the baby was soon asleep.
2. He owned SO many books that his walls were lined with bookcases.
3. The boys were TOO excited to sit still.
4. He has SUCH varied interests, one never knows what he will do next.
5. They have SO few enemies, they are accepted wherever they go.
6. The snow was TOO deep for us to walk across the field.
7. Yesterday I walked SO far that I fell asleep immediately after supper.
8. I had SUCH a good time at the party, I did not want to leave.
9. I see her SO often that I feel I know her quite well.
10. The visibility was TOO poor for the mountains to be seen.
11. This is SUCH an interesting book, I stayed up all night to read it.
12. This puzzle is SO easy that a child could do it.
13. There was SO much traffic, I could not cross the street.
14. She was TOO tired to watch the video.
15. They have SO little furniture, it will be easy for them to move.
Je vais maintenant essayer de vous traduire les explications que j'avais trouvées et données en réponse à Héla, mais elles étaient en anglais, j'aurais peut-être dû les mettre avant mon exo pour les plus débutants, pardon.

Les expression : Such ... That, So ... That, and Too
a. Such ... That
Le déterminant "such" est souvent utilisé en association avec une proposition commençant par "that", pour indiquer une relation de cause à effet.
e.g. There was such a strong wind that we decided to stay indoors.

b. So ... That
Le mot "so" associé à une proposition commençant avec "that" peut également être utilisé pour indiquer une relation de cause à effet.
Alors que "such" modifie habituellement un nom, dans cette construction, "so" est utilisé comme un "intensifier" modifiant un adjectif ou un adverb.
e.g. The wind was so strong that we decided to stay indoors.
His marks are so high that he has applied for a scholarship.
The wind blew so fiercely that we decided to stay indoors.

ATTENTION :
En anglais informel, le mot "THAT" dans les expressions : such...that and so... that est souvent omis.
e.g. There was such a strong wind, we decided to stay indoors.
The moon was so bright, we could see for miles.

c. Too
"L'intensifier" "too" utilisé en association avec un infinitif peut également être utilisé pour indiquer une relation de cause à effet.
e.g. It is too windy for us to go outside.
He is too poor to continue studying without a scholarship.
It was raining too hard for us to leave the house.
Dans les deux premiers exemples, "too" modifie les adjectifs "windy et poor".
Dans le dernier exemple, "too" modifie l'adverbe "hard".

Voilà, j'espère que ces petites traductions des explications en français pourront vous aider dans l'avenir.
A bientôt pour de nouvelles aventures..... grammaticales !!!!
Marie

Réponse: re:So, such or too ? de zen34, postée le 2004-11-24 11:04:05 (S | E)
Bonjour,
Je suis désolé, mais je comprends pas bien cette regle.
Avec l'exemple ci dessous:

She sang SUCH soothing lullabies that the baby was soon asleep.

soothing est un adjectif il me semble donc ne faudrait-il pas utiliser SO au lieu de SUCH ?

ça me parait pas simple, quelqu'un peut-il m'expliquer???

Merci, zen34

Réponse: re:So, such or too ? de marie37400, postée le 2004-11-24 20:30:46 (S | E)
Bonsoir Zen,
Ici, "such" est un adverbe, mais qui peut s'employer en anglais avec des noms ou des adjectifs avec la construction dans laquelle on ajoute "a" au singulier pour les dénombrables :
e.g : In such a persuasive way - d'une façon si convaincainte
He's such a nice boy - c'est un si genti garçon
Such excellent meals - de si bons plats

Voilà, si un de nos gentils profs veut apporter un complément...
car ce n'est pas zen du tout ce point
Anyway, THANKS EVER SUCH A LOT (je viens de découvrir l'expression grâce à toi !)
Marie

Réponse: re:So, such or too ? de cocoon, postée le 2004-11-24 20:47:27 (S | E)
Bonsoir Marie!
Est-ce que les phrases que j'ai râtées sont quand même justes, je veux dire, par exemple et c'est surtout celle là qui m'intéresse:
There was so much traffic, I could not cross the street.
J'avais mis: There was too much traffic, I could not cross the street.
Ou alors, c'était obligatoirement "so" parce que c'est de l'oral et "that" aurait dû se placer à l'endroit de la virgule, mais il a été omis?
A ce moment là, il n'aurait pas été préférable d'écrire "couldn't" au lieu de "could not" pour donner encore plus le sentiment que c'est de l'oral?
Merci!

Réponse: re:So, such or too ? de zen34, postée le 2004-11-25 10:09:09 (S | E)
Merci Marie pour ce complement d'information, je pense que ça devrait aller mieux maintenant.

A bientôt.

Réponse: re:So, such or too ? de serena, postée le 2004-11-25 14:52:34 (S | E)
Bonjour !
Voici un petit résumé des explications de Marie.

1)
- On emploie so comme how, devant un adjectif seul ou un adverbe.
On a donc : SO + Adjectif / adverbe

Ex : How smart she is ! ==> She is so smart !
How fast he drives ! ==> He drives so fast !

- On emploie such comme what, devant un nom précédé ou non d’un adjectif.
On a ici : SUCH + ( a/an) ( + Adjectif ) + NOM.

Bien entendu, si le nom est au pluriel, on ne met pas le déterminant "a /an".

Ex : What a smart lady ! ==> She is such a smart lady !
What nice jewels she has ! ==> She has such nice jewels !

J’espère qu’avec cet autre complément, la différence dans l’emploi de "so" et "such" sera plus claire.

2) Je reviens à la question de cocoon sur la phrase 13.
J’ai donné la même phrase avec "too". Et tu as raison cocoon, la virgule est mise pour that. Ce qui revient à :

There was so much traffic that I could not cross the street.
( Il y avait tellement d’embouteillage que je ne pouvais pas traverser la rue. )

Nous avons employé "too", que je pense est aussi correct dans le sens où il s'agirait de deux propositions indépendantes. La virgule serait alors mise pour and.

There was too much traffic and I could not cross the street.
( il y avait trop d’embouteillage et je ne pouvais pas traverser la rue. )

Les deux constructions indiquent une relation de cause à effet.

Réponse: re:So, such or too ? de cocoon, postée le 2004-11-25 15:41:15 (S | E)
Merci pour ces informations complémentaires serena! C'est très gentil et très clair!

Réponse: re:So, such or too ? de claire1, postée le 2004-11-25 18:22:40 (S | E)
marie37400
merci pour les corrections !!!! je comprends mieux maintenant
bye
thanks
claire1

Réponse: re:So, such or too ? de marie37400, postée le 2004-11-25 18:33:53 (S | E)
Un grand merci à Séréna, car mes explications n'ont porté que sur les expressions avec that et il aurait été mieux que je commence par ce qu'elle a rajouté car les débutants ont été perdus. Je vous demande de m'en excuser.
A bientôt,
Marie

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