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Message de jardin62 posté le 16-04-2005 à 11:24:38 (S | E | F | I)
Après tout ce travail sur le present perfect 1, un nouvel exercice afin de s'affirmer encore et de voir si la leçon, les 2 exos et les corrections ont éclairci le ciel!
*Prétérit simple ou present perfect simple?>(fait daté, terminé ou résultat dans le présent d'un fait passé?)
1- Christopher Columbus (discover) America more than 400 years ago.
2- He (not speak) for over a month.
3- I ( not see) her since Friday.
4- Do you know I (live) here lately?
5- I (work) in the Post Office from 1990 to 1999.
6- I (be) able to speak English when I was younger. I no longer can.
7- I (be) able to speak English since the age of 11.
8- They (get) married before I did. Remember, she was wearing a very funny little hat.
9- He (read) the letter, (stand) up, (go) to his desk, (take) a pen and began to write.
10- (he/finish) writing? - No, not yet.
11- She (only/write) to me once in a year : I am very surprised.
12- 'The prisoner (escape)! - Has he? What can we do?
13- Help! the prisoner (escape)!
14- Don't worry, I (see) him while I was doing my jogging this morning.
15- Where ( you/see) him?
16- I saw it near the bridge. (you/ be) already there?
17- No, we (x)! He 's dangerous.
18- When (you/notice) the prisoner had escaped?
19- When we (have) a look at the clock it was about 11 a.m.
20- We (always/know) this would happen one day.'
See you soon. Have a nice day.

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Edité par grabuge le 16-04-2005 11:34

Réponse: Passé/durée/ QCM de jardin62, postée le 16-04-2005 à 11:26:56 (S | E)
J'ai fait erreur dans le titre du 'post' : il ne s'agit pas d'un QCM!
* Est-ce possible de réparer?

Réponse: Passé/durée de grabuge, postée le 16-04-2005 à 11:40:18 (S | E)
Erreur réparée Jardin

1- Christopher Columbus discovered America more than 400 years ago.
2- He hasn't spoken for over a month.
3- I haven't seen her since Friday.
4- Do you know I've lived here lately?
5- I worked in the Post Office from 1990 to 1999.
6- I was able to speak English when I was younger. I no longer can.
7- I've been able to speak English since the age of 11.
8- They got married before I did. Remember, she was wearing a very funny little hat.
9- He read the letter, stood up, went to his desk, took a pen and began to write.
10- Have you finished writing? - No, not yet.
11- She's only written to me once in a year : I am very surprised.
12- 'The prisoner has escaped- Has he? What can we do?
13- Help! the prisoner escaped !
14- Don't worry, I saw him while I was doing my jogging this morning.
15- Where did you see him? or Where have you seen him ? puis preterit
16- I saw it near the bridge. Have you been already there?
17- No, we haven't. He 's dangerous.
18- When did you notice the prisoner had escaped?
19- When we had a look at the clock it was about 11 a.m.
20- We have always known this would happen one day.'
See you soon. Have a nice day.

Jardin

Réponse: Passé/durée/ QCM de gewurz, postée le 16-04-2005 à 11:40:42 (S | E)
1- Christopher Columbus discovered America more than 400 years ago.
2- He has not spoken / hasn't been speaking for over a month.
3- I haven't seen her since Friday.
4- Do you know I lived here lately?
5- I worked in the Post Office from 1990 to 1999.
6- I was able to speak English when I was younger. I no longer can.
7- I have been able to speak English since the age of 11.
8- They got married before I did. Remember, she was wearing a very funny little hat.
9- He read the letter, stood up, went to his desk, took a pen and began to write.
10- Has he finished writing? - No, not yet.
11- She has only writen to me once in a year : I am very surprised.
12- 'The prisoner has escaped ! - Has he? What can we do?
13- Help! the prisoner has escaped!
14- Don't worry, I saw him while I was doing my jogging this morning.
15- Where did you see him?
16- I saw it near the bridge. Have you already been there?
17- No, we haven't ! He 's dangerous.
18- When have you noticed the prisoner had escaped?
19- When we had a look at the clock it was about 11 a.m.
20- We have always known this would happen one day.'

Merci Jardin.

Réponse: Passé/durée de sun74, postée le 16-04-2005 à 12:15:20 (S | E)
Hello jardin ,

1- Christopher Columbus discovered America more than 400 years ago.
2- He hasn`t been speaking for over a month.
3- I didn`t see her since Friday.
4- Do you know I lived here lately?
5- I worked in the Post Office from 1990 to 1999.
6- I was able to speak English when I was younger. I no longer can.
7- I have been able to speak English since the age of 11.
8- They got married before I did. Remember, she was wearing a very funny little hat.
9- He has read the letter, stood up, went to his desk, took a pen and began to write.
10- has he finished writing? - No, not yet.
11- She only wrote to me once in a year : I am very surprised.
12- 'The prisoner has escaped! - Has he? What can we do?
13- Help! the prisoner has escaped!
14- Don't worry, I saw him while I was doing my jogging this morning.
15- Where have you seen him?
16- I saw it near the bridge. have you already been there?
17- No, we ! He 's dangerous.
18 when have you noticed the prisoner had escaped?
19- When we had a look at the clock it was about 11 a.m.
20- We have always known this would happen one day.'

thanks
sun

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Edité par sun74 le 16-04-2005 12:17

Réponse: Passé/durée de post-scriptum, postée le 16-04-2005 à 12:27:21 (S | E)
Bonjour depuis (la petite) Bretagne...
1- Christopher Columbus discovered America more than 400 years ago.
2- He hasn't spoken for over a month.
3- I haven't seen her since Friday.
4- Do you know I lived here lately?
5- I worked in the Post Office from 1990 to 1999.
6- I was able to speak English when I was younger. I no longer can.
7- I have been able to speak English since the age of 11.
8- They got married before I did. Remember, she was wearing a very funny little hat.
9- He read the letter, stood up, went to his desk, took a pen and began to write.
10- Has he finished writing? - No, not yet.
11- She has only written to me once in a year : I am very surprised.
12- 'The prisoner has escaped! - Has he? What can we do?
13- Help! the prisoner has escaped!
14- Don't worry, I saw him while I was doing my jogging this morning.
15- Where did you see him?
16- I saw him near the bridge. Have you already been there?
17- No, we haven't! He 's dangerous.
18- When did you notice the prisoner had escaped?
19- When we had a look at the clock it was about 11 a.m.
20- We always knew this would happen one day.'
Cet exercice m'a beaucoup intéressé. Merci.

Réponse: Passé/durée de marie37400, postée le 16-04-2005 à 13:06:02 (S | E)
Hello Jardin et
Après la petite Bretagne, voici donc la Loire Valley, bien grise en ce samedi matin
Me voici reprise par les doutes
So, here we go !
1- Christopher Columbus discovered America more than 400 years ago.
2- He hasn’t spoken for over a month.
3- I haven’t seen her since Friday.
4- Do you know I’ve lived here lately?
5- I worked in the Post Office from 1990 to 1999.
6- I was able to speak English when I was younger. I no longer can.
7- I’ve been able to speak English since the age of 11.
8- They got married before I did. Remember, she was wearing a very funny little hat.
9- He read the letter, stood up, went to his desk, took a pen and began to write.
10- Has he finished writing? - No, not yet.
11- She has only written to me once in a year : I am very surprised.
12- 'The prisoner escaped - Has he? What can we do?
13- Help! the prisoner has escaped.
14- Don't worry, I saw him while I was doing my jogging this morning.
15- Where have you seen him? Or Where did you see him ?
16- I saw it near the bridge. Have you been already there?
17- No, we haven’t ! He 's dangerous.
18- When did you notice the prisoner had escaped?
19- When we had a look at the clock it was about 11 a.m.
20- We have always known this would happen one day.'

12 et 13 grand hésitation?????
Pour la 12 , il s’est échappé, c’est un fait constaté, d’accord, mais ….
Pour la 13 on vit la conséquence de l’évasion cela me paraît plus évident
Ou bien, c’était un gros piège, Jardin !!!!!
15 - Est-ce dans le cadre d’une info ou des détails dans la demande
e.g : Who hit you ? Preterit pour les détails
Who has hit you ? Present perfect pour l’info.
17 – Par la logique, « haven’t ». Mais j’ai lu assez fréquemment « did » en lieu et place, est-ce correct ?

Oui, oui, j'arrête là mes questions, c'est formidable ce que vous faites, la leçon, les exercices individuels notés puis la reprise ensemble
I'm looking forward for the explanations. Many thanks in advance,
Have a great weekend,
Marie

Réponse: Passé/durée de hyppoblue, postée le 16-04-2005 à 14:15:24 (S | E)
hello,
J'espère que le ciel est plus clair au dessus du present perfect qu'au dessus du Morvan!
Je ne suis pas encore emplie de certitudes et j'ai marqué mes hésitations avec des ????
1- Christopher Columbus discovered America more than 400 years ago.
2- He hasn't spoken for over a month.
3- I haven't seen her since Friday.
4- Do you know I 've lived here lately?
5- I worked in the Post Office from 1990 to 1999.
6- I was able to speak English when I was younger. I no longer can.
7- I 've been able to speak English since the age of 11.
8- They got married before I did. Remember, she was wearing a very funny little hat.
9- He read the letter, stood up, went to his desk, took a pen and began to write.
10- Has he finished writing? - No, not yet.
11- She 's only written to me once in a year : I am very surprised.
12- 'The prisoner has escaped! (????)- Has he? What can we do?
13- Help! the prisoner escaped !(????)
14- Don't worry, I saw him while I was doing my jogging this morning.
15- Where did you see him? (????)
16- I saw it near the bridge. Have you already been there?
17- No, we haven't! He 's dangerous.
18- When did you noticed the prisoner had escaped? (????)
19- When we had a look at the clock it was about 11 a.m.
20- We have always known this would happen one day.'

Merci vraiment Jardin pour ces leçons et exercices adaptés à nos lacunes.
Have a good week-end.

Réponse: Passé/durée de felin, postée le 16-04-2005 à 16:43:41 (S | E)
Bonjour Jardin

1- Christopher Columbus discovered America more than 400 years ago.
2- He hasn’t spoken for over a month.
3- I haven’t seen her since Friday.
4- Do you know I have lived here lately?
5- I worked in the Post Office from 1990 to 1999.
6- I was able to speak English when I was younger. I no longer can.
7- I’ve been able to speak English since the age of 11.
8- They got married before I did. Remember, she was wearing a very funny little hat.
9- He read the letter, stood up, went to his desk, took a pen and began to write.
10- Has he finished writing? - No, not yet.
11- She has only written to me once in a year: I am very surprised.
12- 'The prisoner has escaped! - Has he? What can we do?
13- Help! The prisoner has escaped!
14- Don't worry, I saw him while I was doing my jogging this morning.
15- Where did you see him?
16- I saw it near the bridge. Have you already been there?
17- No, we haven’t! He’s dangerous.
18- When did you notice the prisoner had escaped?
19- When we had a look at the clock it was about 11 a.m.
20- We have always known this would happen one day.'

Jardin
Have a nice day.

Réponse: Passé/durée de lucile83, postée le 16-04-2005 à 16:44:30 (S | E)
Hello,
Tu vas pouvoir te venger de mon déménagement

1- Christopher Columbus discovered America more than 400 years ago.
2- He hasn’t spoken for over a month.
3- I haven’t seen her since Friday.
4- Do you know I lived here lately?
5- I worked in the Post Office from 1990 to 1999.
6- I was able to speak English when I was younger. I no longer can.
7- I ‘ve been able to speak English since the age of 11.
8- They got married before I did. Remember, she was wearing a very funny little hat.
9- He read the letter, stood up, went to his desk, took a pen and began to write.
10- has he finished writing? - No, not yet.
11- She has only written to me once in a year : I am very surprised.
12- 'The prisoner has escaped !- Has he? What can we do?
13- Help! the prisoner has escaped !
14- Don't worry, I saw him while I was doing my jogging this morning.
15- Where did you see him?
16- I saw it(him) near the bridge. Have you already been there?
17- No, we haven’t ! He 's dangerous.
18- When did you notice the prisoner had escaped?
19- When we had a look at the clock it was about 11 a.m.
20- We always knew this would happen one day.'
j'ai hésité pour la 20 et j'ai mis le preterit car ceci étant arrivé il n'y a plus de lien avec le présent;
See you soon

Réponse: Passé/durée de edith49, postée le 16-04-2005 à 17:14:30 (S | E)
Hello...
1- Christopher Columbus dicovered America more than 400 years ago.
2- He hasn't spoken for over a month.
3- I haven't seen her since Friday.
4- Do you know I lived here lately?
5- I worked in the Post Office from 1990 to 1999.
6- I was able to speak English when I was younger. I no longer can.
7- I have been able to speak English since the age of 11.
8- They got married before I did. Remember, she was wearing a very funny little hat.
9- He read the letter, stood up, went to his desk, took a pen and began to write.
10- Has he finished writing? - No, not yet.
11- She has only written to me once in a year : I am very surprised.
12- 'The prisoner has escaped! - Has he? What can we do?
13- Help! the prisoner has escaped !
14- Don't worry, I saw him while I was doing my jogging this morning.
15- Where did you see him?
16- I saw it near the bridge. Have you been already there?
17- No, we haven't ! He 's dangerous.
18- When have you noticed the prisoner had escaped?
19- When we had a look at the clock it was about 11 a.m.
20- We have always known this would happen one day.'
Thank you Jardin

Réponse: Passé/durée de jammy, postée le 16-04-2005 à 17:20:51 (S | E)
1- Christopher Columbus discoverED America more than 400 years ago.
2- He HAS not SPOKEN for over a month.
3- I HAVE not seeN her since Friday.
4- Do you know I liveD here lately?
5- I workED in the Post Office from 1990 to 1999.
6- I WAS able to speak English when I was younger. I no longer can.
7- I HAVE BEEN able to speak English since the age of 11.
8- They GOT married before I did. Remember, she was wearing a very funny little hat.
9- He read the letter, stood up, went to his desk, took a pen and began to write.
10- HAS he finishED writing? - No, not yet.
11- She HAS only wriTteN to me once in a year: I am very surprised. (bilan present)
12- 'The prisoner HAS escapeD! - Has he? What can we do?
13- Help! The prisoner escapeD!
14- Don't worry, I sAW him while I was doing my jogging this morning.
15- Where HAVE you SEEN him?
16- I saw it near the bridge. HAVE you BEEN already there?
17- No, we HAVE NOT! He’s dangerous.
18- When DID you notice the prisoner had escaped?
19- When we HAD a look at the clock it was about 11 a.m.
20- We HAVE always KNOWN this would happen one day.'
See you soon. Have a nice day.

MERCI beaucoup Jardinette62

Réponse: Passé/durée de idem, postée le 16-04-2005 à 18:24:52 (S | E)
bonsoir Jardin et tous les autres
Après beaucoup d'hésitations de savoir si c'était fini ou pas fini voici mes conclusions, seront-elles bonnes

1 Christopher Colombus discovered America more than 400 years ago.
2 He hasn't spoken for over a month.
3 I haven't seen her since Friday.
4 Do you know I have lived here lately?
5 I worked in the Post Office from 1990 to 1999.
6 I was able to speak English when I was younger. I no longer can.
7 I have been able to speak English since the age of 11.
8 They got married before I did. Remember, she was wearing a very funny little hat.
9 He read the letter, stood up, went to his desk, took a pen and began to write.
10 Has he finished writinge ? No, not yet.
11 She has only written to me once in a year: I am very surprised.
12 The prisoner has escaped! Has he ?
what can we do ?
13 Help ! the prisoner has escaped!
14 Don't worry, I saw him while I was doing my jogging this morning.
15 Where did you see him ?
16 I saw it near the bridge. Have you been already there ?
17 No, we haven't! He 's dangerous.
18 When have you noticed the prisoner had escaped?
19 When we had a look at the clock it was about 11 a.m.
20 We have always known this would happen one day.

Au début , nous avons des points de repères bien précisés et arrive le n° 8 et nous voilà largués dans la cambrousse à nous de jouer au jeu de piste et de déceler les petits indices qui pourraient nous aiguiller pour trouver le fameux temps adéquate. Attention Jardin nous surveille du fin fond de son jardin à côté de sa mare aux grenouilles Aurons-nous trouver la bonne solution, il faut l'espèrer sinon

Bon week-end et merci Jardin
Idem
Ps I'm from Quimper

Réponse: Passé/durée de jardin62, postée le 16-04-2005 à 19:22:56 (S | E)
La 'jardinette', jammy,, a du pain sur la planche:
Non pas que vous ayez mal travaillé, loin s'en faut!J'ai des explications à donner...
*D'abord je voudrais dire à lucile que sa réflexion sur la 20 m'a laissée sans voix pendant un moment et puis, ai-je le droit de le dire, j'ai 'juré un peu vertement' me disant que j'avais mal choisi ma phrase, que je n'allais pas m'en sortir comme ça.
En tout cas pour l'hésitation, il y a de quoi. Il est vrai que cette phrase fait partie d'un approfondissement de la leçon=> elle n'aurait pas dû figurer là. Bref, elle y est.
20- We have always known this would happen one day.
- La réflexion de lucile est: prétérit et non present perfect car l'échappée du prisonnier ayant eu lieu, il n'y a plus de lien avec le présent.=> Rien à dire, c'est vrai, ça se défend.
* Cependant on mettra quand même le present perfect (appelé aussi 'parfait') parce que c'est un 'parfait de constation': l'action est terminée mais elle a une incidence sur le présent malgré tout. 'Nous avons toujours su que cela arriverait et (sous entendu) nous sommes des imbéciles de n'y avoir pas pensé, nous sommes dans de beaux draps, nous devons prendre des mesures maintenant puisque c'est arrivé et que nous avons toujours su que cela arriverait afin de ne plus nous laisser prendre. On peut faire tout un discours sur les incidences présentes qu'a ce fait de 'l'avoir toujours su'.
* Avec cet exemple-ci, il n'y aurait pas eu d' hésitation je pense :
- I'm not going again. I've seen Titanic three times already.
- lucile, tu me diras... (j'ai déménagé là encore! )
**2ème remarque : pour l'erreur à la phrase N° 16 : I saw him et non ~~it.~~
- Participe passé de 'write : written' ( ce qui fait changer la prononciation d'ailleurs, de à
- Les doutes de marie :
N°12: The prisoner has escaped! = pas de repère temporel dans le passé=> bilan + il y avait en indice la reprise 'Has he?' ('Ah, bon? Qu'est-ce que nous pouvons faire?'). Mais cet indice n'était pas obligatoire.
N°13: Help! The prisoner has escaped! ( Le cri d'appel à l'aide conduit bien aux suites présentes de cette action passée: 'Aidez-moi maintenant!')
N°15: Where did you see him?
=> Pour celui qui pose la question, le témoin venant de dire quand il l'a vu (I saw him while I was jogging this morning), il est evident qu'il doit reprendre le prétérit: c'est le témoin lui-même qui place le fait de 'voir' (saw) dans un passé daté et terminé.
N°17: A une question 'Have you already been there?, la logique des réponses courtes impose ici 'No, we haven't'. On pourrait imaginer un prétérit à condition de ne pas en rester à une réponse courte :
*No,(le 'haven't' est zappé), we didn't go there... + un marqueur de temps précis pour situer l'action dans le passé et la dégager de tout lien avec le présent=> we didn't go there three minutes ago, but we'll go if you come with us!
pour ces questions marie, elles font faire des corrections justifiées et rendent exigeant: il faut pouvoir y répondre soi-même ou bien avouer simplement son incertitude (ce qui a failli m'arriver avec la 20 de lucile).
N°4: 'lately' n'est pas un marqueur de temps : ce mot veut dire 'récemment' mais ne situe pas l'action avec précision dans le passé : l'action passée garde un lien avec le présent/ celui qui parle ne vit plus là certes, mais montre la maison en question, ramène ce fait passé dans le présent. Ah, s'il avait dit : Do you know I (live) here 3 years ago ou in 2003, c'était le prétérit! lived
N°18: When did you notice the prisoner had escaped?
=> le prétérit est obligatoire : dans l'esprit de l'interrogateur il y a une date du passée qui est attendue à cause de 'when'.
- Quand il y a 'did' dans une phrase le verbe revient à la base verbale :
*When did you noticed (= notice) the prisoner had escaped?
-N° 3 : I haven't seen her since Friday.
=> Je ne l'ai pas vue depuis vendredi, action de 'ne pas voir' commencée vendredi et se poursuivant au moment où l'on parle => present perfect.
N°9: Ce sont des actions passées mises en parallèle, quelqu'un aligne ses actions l'une après l'autre jusqu'à 'began to write '(qui est au prétérit): 'il a lu, il s'est levé, il est allé à son bureau, il a pris un stylo...'= série de verbes au passé composé qui auraient pu être au passé simple dans un style soutenu : 'il lut, il se leva, il alla, il prit...'
=> He read the letter.., he stood up, went to his desk, took a pen and began to write.
-N°17: Réponse courte qui reprend la question 16 => No, we haven't.
-N°11: Present perfect>She has only written to me once in a year' :
> Elle ne m'a écrit qu'une fois en un an=> l'action de 'ne pas écrire' a un lien avec le présent, celui qui parle ajoute : 'I am very surprised'.
à tous!
Il commence à faire moins tristounet ici, là-haut=> Beau temps sur la zone 'present perfect', pas de perturbations en vue, vent se décalant vers 'weekend'. See you soon!

Réponse: Passé/durée de isa71, postée le 16-04-2005 à 19:24:28 (S | E)
bonjour jardin

*Prétérit simple ou present perfect simple?>(fait daté, terminé ou résultat dans le présent d'un fait passé?)
1- Christopher Columbus discovered America more than 400 years ago.
2- He hasn't spoken for over a month.
3- I haven't seen her since Friday.
4- Do you know I lived here lately?
5- I worked in the Post Office from 1990 to 1999.
6- I was able to speak English when I was younger. I no longer can.
7- I 've been able to speak English since the age of 11.
8- They got married before I did. Remember, she was wearing a very funny little hat.
9- He (read) the letter, (stand) up, (go) to his desk, (take) a pen and began to write.
10- has he finished writing? - No, not yet.
11- She 's only written to me once in a year : I am very surprised.
12- 'The prisoner has escaped ! - Has he? What can we do?
13- Help! the prisoner has escaped !
14- Don't worry, I saw him while I was doing my jogging this morning.
15- Where did you see him?
16- I saw it near the bridge. have you already been there?
17- No, we haven't ! He 's dangerous.
18- When have you noticed the prisoner had escaped?
19- When we had a look at the clock it was about 11 a.m.
20- We have always known this would happen one day.'
See you soon. Have a nice day.
isa

Réponse: Passé/durée de jardin62, postée le 17-04-2005 à 13:31:35 (S | E)
isa.
N°18: Puisque la personne demande 'when' elle parle d'un fait daté dans le passé- Dans son esprit il y a forcément une date pour ce fait terminé dont on lui a dit avant: 'I saw him...'=> When did you notice the prisoner had escaped?
pour le reste!
A bientôt.

Réponse: Passé/durée de lucile83, postée le 17-04-2005 à 16:35:11 (S | E)
Hello,
non please Jardin, ne me hais pas en lisant ce qui suit;

* Avec cet exemple-ci, il n'y aurait pas eu d' hésitation je pense :
- I'm not going again. I've seen Titanic three times already.
tout à fait d'accord avec toi, il n'y a aucun doute sur l'emploi du present perfect; ..........mais.......pour revenir à la 20.........et dans le contexte de cette même phrase.....le verbe "savoir" est un peu spécial car à un moment X on ne sait pas, et à un moment Y on sait, ce qui me pousse à dire que ce qui est arrivé "one day" est passé et daté et sert de référence au fait qu'on l'a toujours su, d'où mon preterit pour ces 2 raisons;
"to know" dans le sens de "rencontrer" ne serait pas aussi compliqué;
Je ne tiens pas à avoir raison à tout prix, rassure toi et ton excellente explication m'avait presque convaincue, mais ça me trotte dans la tête depuis ce matin et ce "we have always known"" ne me plait pas
Bon , je vois que tu me hais !!!
See you soon

Réponse: Passé/durée de jardin62, postée le 17-04-2005 à 22:09:23 (S | E)
bé non! au contraire!
I've always known- I always knew - this would happen one day...I mean... I've always known- I always knew- I would be cornered one day or another
*Si tu as l'occasion de rencontrer un de la Sir 'Harrap's Foundation...
malgré tout...
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Mais je n'avais pas vu ma petite mule, moi! - Hi idem!
Ben dame! Tu as le bonjour de mes grenouilles! Les tétârds sont nés: si tu voyais comme ça gigote là-dedans! Le nénuphar commence à s'étirer et s'il ne neige pas le 1er mai, j'aurai du muguet!
-A part la N°18 rien à se mettre sous la dent:' Comme celui qui parle demande une date dans le passé, il faut utiliser le prétérit, surtout qu'il sait, à cause du verbe 'saw' qui précède (N°17), que l'action est à classer dans un passé sans aucun lien avec le présent, je veux parler de l'action de 'voir' (=saw) de 'remarquer'(= notice) faite et terminée => When did you notice the prisoner had escape? Celui qui parle situe de lui-même cette action dans le passé (...while you were doing your jogging ...N° 14)
A bientôt pour de nouvelles énigmes. Je savais, je l'avais toujours su, qu'au moment de passer au present perfect j'avais intérêt à savoir ma leçon! C'est chouette quand même!
Au fait, je suis toujours sur 'anglaisfacile.com'?
Non... mais... des fois que... Alors tant mieux.

Réponse: Passé/durée de jardin62, postée le 17-04-2005 à 22:11:28 (S | E)
=> 'had escapED

Réponse: Passé/durée de floral5, postée le 18-04-2005 à 16:43:12 (S | E)
Salut !

*Prétérit simple ou present perfect simple?

1- Christopher Columbus discovered America more than 400 years ago.
2- He hasn't spoken for over a month.
3- I haven't seen her since Friday.
4- Do you know I have lived here lately?
5- I worked in the Post Office from 1990 to 1999.
6- I was able to speak English when I was younger. I no longer can.
7- I have been able to speak English since the age of 11.
8- They got married before I did. Remember, she was wearing a very funny little hat.
9- He read the letter, stood up, went to his desk, took a pen and began to write.
10- Has he finished writing? - No, not yet.
11- She has only written to me once in a year : I am very surprised.
12- 'The prisoner escaped! - Has he? What can we do?
13- Help! the prisoner has escaped!
14- Don't worry, I saw him while I was doing my jogging this morning.
15- Where did you see him?
16- I saw him near the bridge. Have you already been there?
17- No, we haven't! He 's dangerous.
18- When did you notice the prisoner had escaped?
19- When we have had a look at the clock it was about 11 a.m.
20- We have always known this would happen one day.'

jardin and Have a nice day.

Réponse: Passé/durée de marie37400, postée le 19-04-2005 à 11:42:26 (S | E)
Hello everybody and many thanks to you Jardin for your clear and accurate explanations !
Have a great day,
Marie

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