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Three men in a basket.
Message de aimen7 posté le 29-07-2005 à 20:23:44 (S | E | F | I)

Hello everybody,
Voici votre petite histoire drôle tant attendue. Régalez-vous!
traduire

Trois hommes dans une nacelle.
Un pilote remarqua une mongolfière qui avait l'air d'appartenir à un poste de combat de la Royal Air Force à proximité. Il informa le poste immédiatement, mais personne la-bàs n'était en mesure d'expliquer le mystère. L'officier dans la tour de contrôle était très en colère lorsqu'il entendit la nouvelle, car les ballons peuvent représenter un grand danger pour les avions. Il declara qu'il se pourrait que quelqu'un soit en en train d'espionner le poste et on ordonna au pilote de suivre la trace de l'étrange objet.
Le pilote réussit à encercler le ballon pendant un certain temps. Dessous, Il a pu distinguer trois hommes dans une nacelle et l'un d'entre eux tenait des jumelles. Au moment où le ballon se trouvait au-dessus du poste de combat, le pilote vit un des hommes prendre des photos.
Peu après, le ballon commença à descendre et atterrit près d'un aérodrome. On fit appel à la police, mais elle ne pouvait arrêter personne car la nacelle contenait deux membres du Parlement ainsi que le Commandant du poste!
Comme l'a expliqué plus tard le Commandant, une moitié du poste n'avait aucune idée de ce que l'autre moitié faisait!!!!

Correction vendredi prochain.
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Edité par bridg le 29-07-2005 20:49


Réponse: Three men in a basket. de grabuge, postée le 29-07-2005 à 22:50:09 (S | E)
Hello Aimen,

Je commence par le premier paragraphe, j'ai de la lecture qui m'attend..

Three men in a nacelle.
A pilot noticed an aerostat which seemed to belong to a combat-post of the "Royal Air Force" nearby. He immediately informed the post but nobody there were in a position to explain the mystery.
The officer in the control tower was very angry when he heard the news because the balloons can be a danger to the planes. He declared that someone could be spying on the post and the pilot was ordered to keep track of the strange object.

Le reste, demain, lorsque mes dendrites seront reposées

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Edité par grabuge le 31-07-2005 10:30 - I come back

The pilot succeeded in encircling the balloon during some time.
He could see under it, three men in a nacelle and one of them was handing binoculars. At the moment where the balloon was standing over the combat post, the pilot saw one of the men taking some photos.
A few minutes later, the balloon landed and grounded near an airfield.
The police were called but they weren't able to arrest anybody because two members of the parliament and the Commandant of the post were in the nacelle !
As the Commandant explained later , half of the post had no idea that the other was doing !

Aïmen -

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Edité par grabuge le 03-08-2005 16:32 pour le corrigé Aimen, Que de fautes !!!


Réponse: Three men in a basket. de post-scriptum, postée le 30-07-2005 à 12:34:05 (S | E)
Bonjour Aïmen, bonjour à toutes et à tous,

Three men in a gondola basket

A pilot noticed a hot-air balloon which looked to belong to an action station of close Royal Air Force. He immediately informed the post, but nobody over there was in position to explain the mystery. The officer in the control tower was very angry when he heard the news, because the balloons can represent a big danger for the planes. He declared there it would be possible that someone could be spying on the station and they commanded the pilot to follow the trace of the strange object.

The pilot managed to circle the hot-air balloon for a while. Underneath, he was able to spot three men in a gondola basket and one of them was holding a pair of binoculars. At the time when When the balloon was above the action station, the pilot saw one of the men taking photographs.

Shortly afterwards, the balloon began to come down and landed close to an airfield. They appealed to the police force, but they couldn't arrest anybody because the gondola held two members of the Parliament and the Commander of the station! As the Commander explained it later, a half of the station had no idea of what the other half was doing...

A bientôt pour les inévitables corrections, puis pour de nouvelles aventures


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Edité par post-scriptum le 03-08-2005 12:45
voici donc mon inévitable correction, merci Aïmen


Réponse: Three men in a basket. de bridg, postée le 30-07-2005 à 14:04:59 (S | E)
it's a try

A pilot noticed an aerostat which seemed to belong to a military Royal Air Forces close post. He immediately informed the post, but nobody was able to explain the mystery. The control tower officer was very angry hearing the news, because balloons could be really dangerous for planes. He declared it would be possible somebody was spying on the post and the pilot was ordered to follow this strange object.
The pilot managed to surround the balloon for a while. Below, He was able to distinguish three men in a nacelle and one of them held binoculars. When the balloon was over the military station, the pilot saw one of them taking pictures.
After a while, the balloon began to come down and landed near an aerodrome. The police was called, but nobody could be arrest because the nacelle contained two Parliament members and the post Manager! As he explained later, half of the people working in the post had no idea about the other half activities!!!!



Réponse: Three men in a basket. de aimen7, postée le 30-07-2005 à 14:20:22 (S | E)
Hello Bridg,
It's a very good try, some sentences are very well-elaborated. There aren't much mistakes. In general, a good work.

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Edité par bridg le 30-07-2005 14:41



Réponse: Three men in a basket. de zinedine, postée le 30-07-2005 à 14:28:50 (S | E)

Hello imen7
Three men in a nacelle.
A pilot noticed a nacelle which seemed to belong to military post of the nearby ROYAL AIR FORCE. He immediately informed the post, but person there wasn’t capable to explain the mystery. The officer in the control tower was very angry when he heard the news, because balloons represent a great danger for planes. He declared that it would be possible that somebody was spying the post and he ordered the pilot to follow the track of the strange object.
The pilot succeeded to surround the balloon for a while. Below, he was able to distinguish three men in the nacelle and one of them took binoculars. At the moment when the balloon was above the military post the pilot saw one of the men was taking photos.
Little later, the balloon began to come down and landed near an aerodrome. We called upon the police, but it couldn’t arrest nobody because the nacelle contained two members of the parliament as well as the commander of the station! How explained later the commander, a half of the station didn’t have any idea what other half did!!!!



Réponse: Three men in a basket. de lucile83, postée le 30-07-2005 à 15:49:53 (S | E)
Hello,
here is my try

Three men in a nacelle
A pilot noticed an aerostat which seemed to belong to a close RAF fighting post. He informed the post at once, but nobody there was able to explain the mystery. The officer in the control tower was very angry when he heard about the news, for balloons can be quite dangerous for planes. He declared someone might be spying on the post and the pilot was ordered to follow the trace of the strange object.
The pilot succeeded in surrounding the balloon for a while. Just below he could see three men in a nacelle, one of them holding binoculars. Just as the balloon was standing over the post the pilot saw one of the men take some photos.
Some time later the balloon started to get down and landed near an aerodrome. The police were called but they couldn’t arrest anybody for two members of Parliament and the Major of the post were in the nacelle ! As the Major explained later on , half of the post had no idea about what the other half was doing !!!!!



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Edité par lucile83 le 30-07-2005 15:52


Réponse: Three men in a basket. de aimen7, postée le 30-07-2005 à 19:52:55 (S | E)
Hello,
Très bien lucile. Vous vous en sortez tous pas mal. J'avoue que c'est un peu dur et assez long, mais courage les autres. La difficulté vient du vocabulaire cette fois pas de la grammaire.


Réponse: Three men in a basket. de jardin62, postée le 31-07-2005 à 21:28:00 (S | E)

Hello aimen!

Three men in a nacelle.
A pilot noticed an air-balloon which seemed to belong to a near-by Royal Air Force battle station. He immediately informed the station but no one there was able to explain the mystery. In the control tower the officer flew into a temper when he heard the news, for balloons can be a cause of great danger for planes. He declared that someone might be spying the station and the pilot was commanded to follow the trace of the strange object.
The pilot managed to encircle the balloon for a while. Underneath, he was able to catch sight of three men in a 'basket' one of them holding binoculars. Just when the balloon was over the battle station, the pilot saw one of the men take photos.
After a little while, the balloon began to go down and it landed close to an air field. The police were called, but they couldn't arrest any one for the 'basket' was carrying two members of Parliament and the station commandant on top of it! As the commandant later explained, half of the station had no idea what the other half was doing!!!!

aimen
See you soon.


Réponse: Three men in a basket. de aimen7, postée le 31-07-2005 à 21:45:25 (S | E)
Hello,
Excellent travail jardin, rien à dire de plus.


Réponse: Three men in a basket. de zen34, postée le 01-08-2005 à 11:36:40 (S | E)
Salut aimen,

C'est pas facile...

Three men in a basket.
A pilot saw an aerostat that seemed to belong to a close Royal Air Force fighting station. He immediately informed the post, but nobody over there was able to explain the mystery. The officer in the control tower was very cross when he heard the news, for balloons can be an important danger for planes. He claimed that someone might be spying on the post and then gave the pilot the order to track that weird object.
The pilot succeeded in surrounding the balloon for some while. Below, he was able to see three men in a basket and one of them was holding binoculars. At the time when the balloon was over the fighting station, the pilot saw one of the men taking some pictures.
Soon after, the balloon started going down and landed near an aerodrome. We called the police in, but they couldn’t arrest anybody because the basket contained two members of the parliament and the post’s commander!
As the Commander explained later, half of the post had no idea of what the other half was doing!







Réponse: Three men in a basket. de anon, postée le 01-08-2005 à 14:06:26 (S | E)
Bonjour,

Il informa le poste immédiatement, mais personne la-bàs ne fut en mesure d'expliquer le mystère. L'officier dans la tour de contrôle fut très en colère lorsqu'il entendit la nouvelle, car les ballons pouvaient représenter un grand danger pour les avions. Dessous, Il a pu il put distinguer trois et l'un d'entre eux tenait des jumelles. Au moment où le ballon se trouva au-dessus du poste de combat, le pilote vit un des hommes prendre des photos.
Peu après, le ballon commença à descendre et atterrit près d'un aérodrome. On fit appel à la police, mais elle ne put arrêter personne car la nacelle contenait deux membres du Parlement ainsi que le Commandant du poste!

Il faut également respecter la cohérence des temps en français.

Three men in a nacelle.
A pilot noticed an aerostat that seemed to belong to a close-at-hand RAF action station. He directly informed the post but nobody out there was able to explain the mystery. The officer in the control tower got very angry when he heard about this news item, for balloons could account for a great danger for planes. He announced that somebody might be spying on the post and the pilot was ordered to track down that strange object.
The pilot succeeded in surrounding the balloon for some time. Beneath, he could distinguish three men in a nacelle, one of them was holding binoculars.
When the balloon got just right above the action station, the pilot saw one of the men snap.
Ere, the ballon began to go down and landed near to an aerodrome. The police were called but they couldn't arrest anybody for the three passengers of the nacelle were two Parliament's members as well as the post Commander !
As the Commander explained it later, half of the post had no idea about what the other half could be doing !!!

Merci.



Réponse: Three men in a basket. de aimen7, postée le 02-08-2005 à 12:38:53 (S | E)
Bonjour anon,
Avant de proposer des thèmes aux membres du site qui s'y soumettent avec bravoure et gentillesse, il est évident que fais très attention à la concordance des temps dans les textes en français que je propose. Notamment l'utilisation de l'imparfait et du passé simple de l'indicatif qui sont deux temps à manier avec précaution dans le récit. Je me permet de vous dire que je ne suis pas d'accord avec les modifications que vous voulez apporter à mon texte.
Merci.



Réponse: Three men in a basket. de lucile83, postée le 02-08-2005 à 14:41:02 (S | E)
Bonjour Anon,

Je me permets d'intervenir ici (excuse moi Aimen ) pour dire qu'en traduisant ce texte français en anglais je n'ai pas été choquée par l'emploi des verbes utilisés; "Dessous, Il a pu ......il put " est à l'extrême limite la seule modification que l'on pourrait "chipoter" dans la mesure où l'on.... oserait éventuellement se le permettre ! ce que je ne ferai jamais.

Dans ta traduction par contre je vois :" for balloons could account for a great danger" ce qui constitue une faute car en français le présent est employé et tu traduis avec le preterit, or ce danger est toujours d'actualité et le présent convient parfaitement.
Il est plus facile de traduire un texte que d'en inventer un ou d'en trouver un et de suivre les corrections que l'on soumet aux membres du site. A ce titre Aimen a beaucoup de mérite et je la soutiens totalement.
See you soon.




Réponse: Three men in a basket. de anon, postée le 02-08-2005 à 15:49:18 (S | E)
Désolé pour mon manque de diplomatie. Mille excuses Aimen.



Réponse: Three men in a basket. de aimen7, postée le 02-08-2005 à 16:31:36 (S | E)
Hello,
Il n'y a vraiment aucun problème anon.
Merci lucile.
See you soon.


Réponse: Three men in a basket. de zinedine, postée le 03-08-2005 à 11:12:05 (S | E)
hello aimen7
Three men in a nacelle.
A pilot noticed a nacelle which seemed to belong (to) a military post of the (nearby) ROYAL AIR FORCE nearby. He immediately informed the post, but (person) nobody there wasn’t capable to explain the mystery. The officer in the control tower was very angry when he heard the news, because balloons represent a great danger for planes. He declared that it would be possible that somebody was spying the post and he ordered the pilot to follow the track of the strange object.
The pilot succeeded (to surround) surrounding the balloon for a while. (Below) underneath, he was able to distinguish three men in the nacelle and one of them took binoculars. (At the moment) when the balloon was above the military post the pilot saw one of the men who was taking photos.
A little later, the balloon began to come down and landed near an aerodrome. We called upon the police, but it couldn’t arrest nobody anybody because the nacelle contained two members of the parliament as (well as) the commandant explained later. Half of the station didn’t have any idea what other half (did) was doing!!!!




Réponse: Three men in a basket. de aimen7, postée le 03-08-2005 à 11:31:44 (S | E)
Bonjour zinedine,
En voulant corriger ton texte, tu as refait d'autres fautes, tu n'aurais pas dû réécrire ton texte mais simpleent éditer à l'aide du E.

-To belong TO...
-...no one WAS able to...
-To succeed IN +verb+ing.
L'avant dernière phrase est incomplète et tu l'as reliée à la précédente

-Pourquoi ne pas utiliser MIGHT (qui exprime la probabilité) dans la phrase "Il se pourrait que quelqu'un soit en train d'espionner le poste."
-Espionner, to spy ON.
(On reviendra longuement sur cette phrase à la correction vendredi.)

Voilà, corrige mais en éditant cette fois.


Réponse: Three men in a basket. de kathleen, postée le 05-08-2005 à 14:03:30 (S | E)
Bonjour Aimen!

Three men in a basket

A pilot noticed an air-balloon which seemed to belong to a Royal Air Force battle station near at hand. He immediately informed the station, but nobody there was in time to explain the mystery. In the control tower the officer was very bad tempered(or angry) when he heard the news, because the balloons can represent a big danger for the planes. He declared it would be possible that someone could be spying on the station and they commanded the pilot to follow the trace of the strange object.
The pilot managed to encircle the balloon for a while. Underneath, he could distinguish three men in a basket and one of them was holding binoculars. When the balloon was over the battle station, the pilot saw one of the men to take photos.
After a little while, the balloon begun to go down and landed close to an airfield.
We called on the police, but they couldn’t arrest any one because the basket was carrying two members two members of Parliament and the Commander of the station !
As the commander explained later, half of the station had no idea about what the other half was doing !

Voilà! J'ai été rapide.
Aimen.





Réponse: Three men in a basket. de aimen7, postée le 05-08-2005 à 14:44:59 (S | E)
Bonjour,
Voici la correction de votre exercice de traduction:
Le vocabulaire:
-Une mongolfière: A balloon(with its nacelle or basket), an aerostat...
-Dessous: Under--Below=au-dessous.
-Peu après: Soon afterwards, shortly afterwards, After a while, A little later, some time later...
-Un poste de combat: An action station, a station.
-Atterrir: To land, décoller(to take off).
-Un aerodrome: an airfield, an aerodrome.
-"Le pilote réussit à encercler le ballon": Managed to circle(manoeuvrer avec success, réussir après des efforts), succeeded in circling.
-To keep track of: Conserver un suivi, donc surveiller, suivre la trace de.
-Il a pu /pouvait (imparfait car on décrit les actions du pilotedans le passé) distinguer:
He could see, he could distinguish, he was able to make out...

Grammaire:
A-"Because balloons CAN be a great danger to aircraft: Présent car vérité générale.

B-"Le pilote vit un des hommes prendre des photos":
He saw one of the men TAKING photos: (l'accent est mis sur la durée de l'action, de plus l'action est progressive.)
He saw ....TAKE photos: On n'insiste pas sur la durée de l'action.

C--"Il déclara qu'il se pourrait que quelqu'un soit en train d'espionner le poste.(Discours indirect)
-He declared that someone might be spying on the station.
-He said that someone could be spying on the station.
-He announced there might be someone spying on the station.(Il pourrait y avoir quelqu'un en train d'espionner le poste.)

Deux autres possibilités ont été proposées, grammaticalement correctes mais qui à mon sens sont maladroites:
1)He declared (that) it would be possible that someone could be spying on the station. Il déclara qu'il serait possible que quelqu'un pourrait être en train d'espionner la station.
L'éventualité ou la possibilité (que quelqu'un soit en train d'espionner) est émise deux fois. Avec "would" qui implique que quelque chose pourrait arriver, puis avec "could" qui implique que quelque chose est possible.

2)He declared (that) it would be possible that someone was spying on the station. Il déclara qu'il serait possible que quelqu'un fût en train d'espionner le poste. Ici le conditionnel est suivi d'un subjonctif imparfait.

Au moment où l'officier parle l'action est en cours, en conséquence le présent est requis après "that". Pour les deux cas 1) et 2), je dirais plutôt:
-He said it would be possible that someone is spying on the station. Ou bien, He said it would be possible that someone be spying on the station.

A ne pas confondre avec: He declared it was possible that someone was spying on the station(Il déclara qu'il était possible que quelqu'un fût en train d'espionner...) qui correspond au style direct à: He declared, "it is possible that someone is spying on the post.".
Vos avis et commentaires sur ce dernier point de grammaire C, en particulier sont les bienvenus, car je ne suis pas très sûre de certaines choses que j'avance.

Le texte:Three men in a basket.
A pilot noticed a balloon which seemed to belong to a Royal Air Force station nearby. He informed the station at once, but no one there was able to explain the mystery. The officer in the control tower was very angry when he heard the news, because balloons can be a great danger to aircraft. He said that someone might be spying on the station and the pilot was ordered to keep track of the strange object. The pilot managed to circle the balloon for some time. He could make out three men in a basket under it and one of them was holding field-glasses. When the balloon was over the station, the pilot saw one of the men taking photographs. Soon afterwards, the balloon began to descend and it landed near an airfield. The police were called in, but they could not arrest anyone, for the basket contained two Members of Paliament and the Commanding Officer of the station! As the Commanding Officer explained later, one half of the station did not know what the other half was doing.

NB. I think "field-glasses", military vocabulary ( Lunettes d'observation) are binoculars (des jumelles).?!
See you soon




Réponse: Three men in a basket. de post-scriptum, postée le 05-08-2005 à 15:10:07 (S | E)
Magnifique correction,


Réponse: Three men in a basket. de kathleen, postée le 05-08-2005 à 18:31:26 (S | E)
Aimen!
Très bonne correction.
Grâce à ce texte , on a acquis un grand nombre de nouveaux mots dans notre vocabulaire en anglais.




Réponse: Three men in a basket. de aimen7, postée le 05-08-2005 à 18:35:22 (S | E)
Hello,
Merci à vous tous, c'est grâce à vous que cet échange peut avoir lieu.
J'en apprends autant que vous sinon plus, mais toujours avec plaisir


Réponse: Three men in a basket. de zinedine, postée le 06-08-2005 à 09:50:26 (S | E)

Avec l’explication que vous nous donnez et la façon de corriger nos erreurs, l’anglais avec vous et devenue facile à comprendre.
AIMEN7


Réponse: Three men in a basket. de lucile83, postée le 06-08-2005 à 16:00:20 (S | E)
Hello Aimen,

A mon avis toutes les propositions sont grammaticalement correctes ; mais……pourquoi ne pas faire simple quand c’est possible comme ici ? et dire :

-He declared that someone might be spying on the station.
ou mieux encore :
-He declared someone might be spying on the station

sachant que lorsqu’on peut économiser un mot en anglais il ne faut pas hésiter ; les autres constructions sont correctes mais beaucoup trop lourdes et aucun anglais ne se risquerait à les dire ;
C'est mon opinion, tu en auras peut-être d'autres

See you soon


Réponse: Three men in a basket. de aimen7, postée le 07-08-2005 à 09:41:50 (S | E)
Bonjour,
Tu as raison lucile, dans la traduction ou l'expression écrite, il faut avoir le réflexe d'utilier ce que l'on connait bien du point de vue grammatical(une tournure, un auxiliaire modal...). Il faut éviter de traduire mot à mot car le résultat est souvent lourd et maladroit.
L'expression "it would be possible..." ou plutôt "would it be possible...", serait plus utile cependant dans le questionnement sur une possibilité, donc dans une forme interrogative:
"Serait-il possible que...?" qui est différent de "Il se pourrait que...", sens rendu par "might be".(qui décrit une éventuelle possibilité)
Ex:"Would it be possible to travel back through time?" ou, "I wonder if it would be possible to travel back through time."
ou bien, "Would it be possible for you to look at the enclosed questionnaire", ou encore, I should be grateful if it would be possible for you to look at the enclosed questionnaire."


Réponse: Three men in a basket. de serena, postée le 08-08-2005 à 00:13:23 (S | E)
Belated answer...yes, Aimen, field-glasses = binoculars.

Good text, good correction.
Hope to be more available next time. I do like your exercises.


Réponse: Three men in a basket. de squale, postée le 04-03-2006 à 18:37:01 (S | E)
three men in a nacelle. A pilot noticed an aerostad who seemed to belong to a ROYAL AIR FORCE figther post near. He immediatly informed the post but nobody there were in position to explain this mistery.

Sorry I have to stop this translataion.... I wil begin tomorow ....
by


Réponse: Three men in a basket. de maya13, postée le 07-03-2006 à 14:32:55 (S | E)
hello aimen,

Three men in a basket

A pilot noticed a balloon which seemed to belong to a combat post of the close RFA. He informed the post at once but nobody there was able to explain the mystery. The officer in the control tower was very angry when he heard the news because balloons can be a great danger for planes. He said that someone could be spying on the post and the pilot was ordered to keep track of the strange object.
The pilot suceeded in surrounding the balloon for a while. Below, he managed to see three men in a basket one of them holding binoculars. Just when the balloon was staying above the combat post, the pilot saw one of the men taking photos.
Soon afterwards the balloon began to come down and landed near an airfield. The police were called on but they could not arrest anybody because in the basket were two members of the Parliament as well as the post captain.
As the Captain explained later, half the post had no idea what the other half was doing.


Réponse: Three men in a basket. de krokro, postée le 08-03-2006 à 21:19:07 (S | E)
Three men in a balloon basket.
One pilot notices a hot-air balloon which seemed belong to a near post of the Royal Air Force.
He informed the post immediately but nobody there was able to explain the mystery .
The officer in the control tower was very angry when he was informed of the new because balloons could be very dangerous for plains.
He announced it was possible some one was spying the post and bid the pilot to follow the strange thing.

The pilot reach to fly around the balloon for a time bellow he could distinguish 3 men in the basket and one of them held a par of binoculars.
Once the balloon was just above the post of the army
the pilot saw one man taking photos.
A few moments after the balloon began to drop down and to land up near an aerodrome.
The police had been called but wasn't able to catch some one because the basket contained two member of the Parliament and the Commander of the post.

As the Commander explained it after half of the post people doesn't know what the other half was doing.




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