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Message de chrisg posté le 2004-05-31 11:29:11 (S | E | F | I)
I don't wanna make you feel weird, but why not translating in french english poems ??? Yes i know it's difficult ... but you may learn more !

Réponse: re de choubidouou, postée le 2004-05-31 11:40:27 (S | E)
Yes Chrisg that could be a good idea, but that would be very difficult. but it also depends of the poems. At school i have a poetry course, and the poems we study are pretty old (Edmund Spencer, William Shakespeare, Colleridge...) and it's pretty hard to translate them into French, because the structures are difficult to understand and the vocabulary is quite old and not used today anymore.
But anyway, i think that's a good idea if some people are volonteer, why not??!!!

Réponse: re de chrisg, postée le 2004-05-31 12:17:41 (S | E)
one below ! Enjoy !

(by Taylor Graham)
We make this long drive down the valley in illusion,
sun-glare mirage of pavement shimmering in illusion.

This used to be a desert, before water brought forth
orange groves and walnuts - an oasis in illusion.

The hills lie bare as winter. Not a single farmhouse
where an old man props his heels, lost in illusion.

A harrow on a vast machine is slicing level soil
upwind, and dust envelopes in a bright illusion.

Across the valley, lost in clouds, true mountains
guard their snow as if hardship were an illusion.

In thirty miles, another stop for gas and coffee,
as the interstate unwinds our progress in illusion.

The heater's on, we've checked our list, forgotten
nothing; and so, departure is a mere illusion.

At the other end, we'll arrive with reservation
at a motel, the day's fatigue slipping to illusion.

And then we'll sleep, and dream in rented sheets,
and all the miles we've traveled an illusion.

Réponse: re de gizm0, postée le 2004-05-31 13:06:40 (S | E)
We make this long drive down the valley in illusion,
Nous effectuons cette longue route a travers la vallée dans une illusion
sun-glare mirage of pavement shimmering in illusion.
un mirage brillant et ensoleillé de trottoirs etincellants dans une illusion

This used to be a desert, before water brought forth
Il y avait avant un désert, avant que l'eau ne soit mis en avant
orange groves and walnuts - an oasis in illusion.
noix et noisettes oranges un oasis dans une illusion

The hills lie bare as winter. Not a single farmhouse
les collines demeurent nus comme l'hiver pas la moindre maison agricole
where an old man props his heels, lost in illusion.
où un viel homme suportant ses talons, perdu dans une illusion

A harrow on a vast machine is slicing level soil
une herse sur un grand engin tranche les niveaux du sol
upwind, and dust envelopes in a bright illusion.
contre le vent et la poussiere enveloppe dans une vive illusion

Across the valley, lost in clouds, true mountains
a travers les vallées, perdu dans les nuages, véritables montagnes
guard their snow as if hardship were an illusion.
surveillent leur neige comme si ce qui a été enduré était une illusion

In thirty miles, another stop for gas and coffee,
dans 30 miles, un autre arret pour de l'essence et du café
as the interstate unwinds our progress in illusion.
tandis que le croisement des états démèle notre progression dans une illusion

The heater's on, we've checked our list, forgotten
le chauffage est allumé , nous avons vérifiés notre liste, rien
nothing; and so, departure is a mere illusion.
oublié; et donc, le départ est une simple illusion

At the other end, we'll arrive with reservation
à l'autre bout, nous arriverons avec réserve
at a motel, the day's fatigue slipping to illusion.
à un motel, la fatigue journalière se glisse vers l'illusion

And then we'll sleep, and dream in rented sheets,
et puis nous dormirons, et reverons dans des draps de location
and all the miles we've traveled an illusion.
et tous les miles nous les avons voyagé est une illusion

(au passage 1 mile = 1609 metres)

Réponse: re de chrisg, postée le 2004-05-31 13:30:02 (S | E)
you did it on the fly ? Great !

Réponse: re de gizm0, postée le 2004-05-31 16:42:36 (S | E)
yes While talking to you & rosminet in the chat, I was translating at the same time

Réponse: ATMA, Chris de mariet, postée le 2004-05-31 18:57:34 (S | E)
"why not translating in french english poems"
-> Why not translatE English poems INTO French ?
... or French ones into English (Some of the club members are here to improve their French too, after all.)

Réponse: re de chrisg, postée le 2004-06-01 06:49:40 (S | E)
yes, you're right Mariet, but theme is much more difficult than version, especially dealing with poems !

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