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Message de carobd posté le 03-01-2005 à 20:10:32 (S | E | F | I)
We can say: what's the weather like?
Can we say also:
"how is the weather?"
We can say: We have english today. Can we say also:

"we have got English today?. Thanks.

Réponse: re:Please... de freeday, postée le 04-01-2005 à 11:58:35 (S | E)
Hello carobd, you can only write the two following sentences : 'What's the weather like ?' and 'We have English today'.
See you

Réponse: re:Please... de alexgowes, postée le 04-01-2005 à 15:11:50 (S | E)
We can say: what's the weather like?
Can we say also:
"how is the weather?" YES

We can say: We have english today. Can we say also:

"we have got English today?. YES, meaning that we have an English class today.

Réponse: re:Please... de willy, postée le 04-01-2005 à 17:55:38 (S | E)
How is the weather ? When you ask that question, you ask about the other person's opinion/reaction about the weather rather than about what the weather is really like. "How ... ?" is used especially to ask about things which change or about people's reactions to their experiences.
It's quite the same when you ask : "how was the film?" ; it doesn't mean "what's the film like ?".

What do you think, alexgowes ?

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Edité par willy le 2005-01-04 18:02:43

Réponse: re:Please... de alexgowes, postée le 04-01-2005 à 18:06:03 (S | E)
Willy, they're just alternatives and I would use either. How's the weather? = what's the weather like? = what's it like outside? Any time you ask about weather, the answer is going to be subjective.

Réponse: re:Please... de willy, postée le 04-01-2005 à 18:12:21 (S | E)
Well, if you "describe" the weather conditions, you are objective and you explain what the weather is like.

When you just say" it's cold outside", I may not agree with you as I can stand the cold, and you just say how you feel about it.

Is my explanation farfetched ?

Réponse: re:Please... de alexgowes, postée le 04-01-2005 à 18:35:01 (S | E)
I agree with you that an answer like "it's 23 degrees and partially cloudy" is objective whereas "it's nice" is subjective. However, I really don't think there's any significance in the way the question is posed (how's the weather/what's the weather like). Either would be perfectly acceptable and one could give an answer that is a very scientific description or just an impression.

It's below 0 here, and we're expecting snow.

Réponse: re:Please... de willy, postée le 04-01-2005 à 18:44:27 (S | E)
Well, here, in the Belgian Ardennes, it's mild and it looks like rain !

Réponse: re:Please... de carobd, postée le 04-01-2005 à 22:22:51 (S | E)

Thank you very much in fact, I wanted to be sure that I did well in my class (primary) , ( I am not an English teacher), I have also some difficulties with the use of the verbs have and have got
Could somebody give me an explanation as you can say "I have English today" and "I have got English today" as well? ( only Freeday doesn't agree with this). Thanks.
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Edité par bridg le 05-01-2005 00:37

Réponse: re:Please... de alexgowes, postée le 04-01-2005 à 22:57:16 (S | E)
In everyday English, the word "got" is optional. You can use it or not, it's your choice!

I have to go shopping = I have got to go shopping
I have a book = I have got a book
I have a French class today = I have got a French class today
I have a headache (mal de tête) = I have got a headache
I have money = I have got money
I have no money = I have got no money
etc.etc.

Réponse: re:Please... de solene22, postée le 05-01-2005 à 00:36:01 (S | E)
hi ,I was following your discussion about the weather and its objectivity, when suddenly the word 'farfetched" appears! Can somebody explain me his meaning?

Réponse: re:Please... de elibarclo, postée le 05-01-2005 à 11:42:18 (S | E)
I think the use of "got" with the verb " to have " is only done in the present tense and has a sense of possession ;we musn't add "got" with the other tenses.All the examples given by alexgowes are correct.It's a simple rule.

Réponse: re:Please... de willy, postée le 05-01-2005 à 20:21:24 (S | E)
"Farfetched" ? Well, it means in French "tiré par les cheveux" when talking about an explanation or shades of meaning (French : nuances).
It can also mean : improbable, unlikely, bizarre, when talking about an idea, a scheme or a suggestion.

There you are !(voilà !)

Réponse: re:Please... de clarinette, postée le 06-01-2005 à 00:52:22 (S | E)
HAVE and HAVE GOT :
According to the English Grammar in use
You can use have GOT / has GOT or Have / has
in questions and negative sentences there are 3 possible forms :
Have you got...? I haven't go....
Do you have...? I don't have...
Have you...? (less usual) I haven't....

Has she got...? She hasn't got...
Does she have...? She doesn't have...
Has she...? (less usual) She hasn't...

IN the past, we do not normally use GOT
She had long hair
In past questions and negative sentences we normally use DID/DIDN'T
Did you have a car ?
He didn't have a watch.
Bon courage!

Réponse: re:Please... de clarinette, postée le 06-01-2005 à 01:05:41 (S | E)
Je viens de voir l'intervention de alexgowes avec lequel je suis en désaccord notamment sur I HAVE to il y a une confusion. HAVE to a une signification toute particulière proche de MUST.
I have to go shopping = Je dois aller faire des courses
Ce qui est différent de :
I have got some shopping to do ou I have got some shopping to do.
Professeur, pourriez-vous confirmer SVP.
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Edité par bridg le 06-01-2005 20:00
English only please

Réponse: re:Please... de alexgowes, postée le 06-01-2005 à 03:08:30 (S | E)
Je comprends ce que vous dites, Clarinette.

I have to go shopping => je dois aller faire des courses
I have got to go shopping => je dois aller faire des courses.

C'est la même chose. On appuie souvent sur le mot "got" dans cette phrase, ce qui veut dire que "je dois vraiment faire des courses".

Réponse: re:Please... de willy, postée le 06-01-2005 à 11:30:09 (S | E)
"Got" prend l'accent dans la musique de la phrase et sert, comme le dit alexgowes, pour insister.
Voici comment j'explique certains aspects de l'obligation :

I must : exprime une forte obligation venant du locuteur
............I must go to the dentist (j'ai mal aux dents)

I've got to : obligation ponctuelle/momentanée extérieure au locuteur
..................I've got to go to the dentist (j'ai un rendez-vous)

I have to : obligation habituelle extérieure au locuteur
................I have to go to the dentist (c'est mon job et il est temps que j'y aille)

PS : I've just noticed that I was on the "English Only" forum! I hope you won't/don't mind !!!

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Edité par bridg le 06-01-2005 20:00
English only please

Réponse: re:Please... de carobd, postée le 06-01-2005 à 18:48:22 (S | E)
What do you think is the best to use when you teach to children?

When I had an English course for primary school teachers at the

university, we had two teachers: one of them was English and told

us :" Use I have got, have you got, I haven't got , you have got to...

each time you can because you teach English and the English in most

of cases do so". The other was american and said she never used

"have got" but I have,do you have, I have to... I asked you if to say

"I have got English today" was correct because at the beginning

I thought that "have got" could only be used when you possess

something and you don't possess an English lesson.

Réponse: re:Please... de willy, postée le 06-01-2005 à 19:57:42 (S | E)
When the British are talking about states like possessions, family relationship, illness, the normal spoken (=informal) present-tense forms of "to have" are "have got, has got" :

- I've got a new flat.
- I've got an appointment with the dentist at 9.
- She's got a headache.
- Have you got any sisters ?

"Have" can be used too and is becoming common under the influence of American English. When there is an idea of habit the got-forms are not used :

- Does she often have headaches ?
- Do you have any sisters ?
- I often have toothache.

In American English, "have" is used in all cases.

Réponse: re:Please... de alexgowes, postée le 06-01-2005 à 21:53:16 (S | E)
Carobd, in French I think you would say "j'ai une classe", even though "avoir" can indicate possession. It's the same in the English. "I have a class" = "I've got a class". There are other ways you could express the idea, e.g., I have (got) to teach a class, I have (got) to attend a class. I really don't know what the best thing is to teach French children. English-speaking children would use either. I would suggest teaching them that these are alternative ways of communicating exactly the same information. Then they won't be surprised if they see or hear the word "got" in that context.

Réponse: re:Please... de carobd, postée le 06-01-2005 à 22:11:37 (S | E)
Thank you very much for these information Willy, and all of

you who accepted kindly to help me. Alexgowes, as you suggested it

I'll try to do my best to show the children the alternative ways of

communication each time I'll be able to do so.

Réponse: re:Please... de aouatef, postée le 12-01-2005 à 11:14:17 (S | E)
We say: what's the weather like?
also we can say: "how is the weather?"
the two are correct

We say: We have english today.
also we can say:we have got English today.
it means that we have English courses today

hope, have helped you

Réponse: re:Please... de traviskidd, postée le 18-01-2005 à 19:37:54 (S | E)
I think "what's the weather like" asks about weather that has not yet been experienced, or weather in general.

I'm thinking of going out today. What's the weather like?

I'm thinking of moving to Seattle. What's the weather like there?

"How's the weather" asks about weather that one is currently experiencing.

You're at the beach? How's the weather?

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Edité par traviskidd le 2005-01-18 19:40:02

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