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Message from mohammad51 posted on 11-06-2018 at 22:12:06 (D | E | F)
Hello
Welcome all teachers
Sometimes the matter to choose such or so likely turns perplexing.....example
They are such \so charming people, we have never met before.
it looks the rules sometimes are the same.
I wait for your answers; thank you!

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Edited by lucile83 on 11-06-2018 23:19

Re: So / such from gerondif, posted on 11-06-2018 at 22:33:17 (D | E)
Hello
They are such \so charming people, we have never met the like of them before.
So applies to the adjective: He is so charming ! I have never met so elegant a man !
Such applies to the noun : I have never met such a fool ! I have never heard such nonsense !
You can have such applying to a noun qualified by an adjective.
I have never met such a man ! I have never met such an elegant man ! I have never met such men ! I have never met such elegant men !
Your sentence works this way:
I have never met so charming a man / I have never met so charming people. In my memory, the plural one was considered incorrect or awkward.
I have never met such a charming man ! I have never met such charming people ! Usual pattern !

Re: So / such from mohammad51, posted on 12-06-2018 at 06:05:51 (D | E)
Hello
OK gerondif,
First, let me thank you by heart and tongue
I somehow agree with you but let me discuss
The result as I see ...
..............SO ----------------------------------------- .. SUCH..........
(1) I have never met so charming a man ..... I have never met such a charming man.
(2 )I have never met so charming people I have never met such charming people.
Still to ask
my first question is they are such \ so charming people .... let me say now for example:
The people who are our latest neighbours are so charming. or are such charming neighbours.
Thus, it seems to me making slight changes in the sentences can help you, let me say, to do something behind the rules.

Re: So / such from gerondif, posted on 12-06-2018 at 12:45:48 (D | E)
Hello,
You could say ! They are so charming, these new neighbours ! ok.
But I have never met so charming people is wrong for me. I have never met such charming people would be the accepted version.
Again, in the singular, you can afford to stress:
the adjective :I have ever met so tall a man.
the overall impression, the noun : I have never met such a tall man.
Again, I have never met so tall men sounds wrong to me.

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Edited by gerondif on 25-06-2018 00:08

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