RYB /Let's suggest 12

RYB /Let's suggest 12
Message de here4u posté le 10-04-2022 à 18:56:03 (S | E | F)
Hello, dear Workers!

Voici un nouvel exercice d'expression ... Espérons que vous allez vous y risquer ...
Je vous en prie ... Osez participer ! N'ayez pas peur de vous tromper, de faire des fautes, ou d'écrire "hors sujet". Les fautes nous sont utiles, puisqu'elles permettent de réfléchir, de faire des corrections et de donner des explications ...
Paradoxalement, faire une faute est la meilleure chose qui puisse NOUS arriver, à vous, comme à moi ! Merci à ceux qui en font !
N'ayez pas de scrupules, vous ne serez pas jugés, mais simplement guidés et aidés ...
C'est en pratiquant, encore et souvent, que les progrès viendront ! N'hésitez donc pas à intervenir, pour la correction des expressions de vos co-workers, comme pour l'écriture de votre propre expression si vous le désirez ... (Vous pouvez aussi - et certains ne s'en privent presque pas ...) écrire sur le "mode de la conversation", comme vous "parleriez" !)

Voici le rappel des modalités de la première partie de l'exercice :
1. Je vous demande une EXPRESSION sur le sujet proposé (un sujet unique par exercice) à m’envoyer en mp dès que possible … (=> 130 - 150 mots au maximum.)

2. Le plus tôt possible, une première expression est publiée sur le Forum, et CHACUN est libre de « corriger » UNE FOIS ( en collant le texte et indiquant les erreurs EN BLEU, et en soulignant ce qui vous semble maladroit et que vous voudriez changer, sans donner la « correction » (forme correcte), comme il se doit.) Un seul devoir à la fois sera publié pour corriger…
Les modalités entières sont accessibles : Lien internet


( Je vous les rappellerai au fur et à mesure de la progression du travail )

Cet exercice sera ... ce que vous en ferez, ou Correction en ligne le mardi 26 avril 2022.
Voici le nouveau sujet !

"The aim of school is not to give knowledge, it is to 'educate young minds'." (130 - 150 mots au maximum.)

May THE FORCE be with You (with all of you! ) Everybody's welcome! Do not hesitate to write!

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Réponse : RYB /Let's suggest 12 de here4u, postée le 11-04-2022 à 15:21:23 (S | E)
Hello dear workers!

I know that some of you are working regularly, but don't dare to give their work for other workers to "judge" them... Don't forget, we won't judge you; we'll just try to help and suggest "improvements", or other ways to express the same idea.
Here is our first answer! That was quick!
"The aim of school is not to give knowledge, it is to 'educate young minds'."

EXPRESSION N°1:

School has always been a strategic place for governments in order to emerge new generations who are conscient about global issues that we currently live. Before the Second World War, the movement of "nazism" understood the importance of school : they should control the youngs at school, making them eat books which are ideological books. If you want to keep a population under control, education at school is the first step. However, current schools are not the same than before : Is the aim of school not longer a place of knowledge ? (90)
First, youngs are more and more educated and want to improve their CV : In France, the rate of students who get the "Baccaulaureat" and continue to higher education was never as high than now. This tendancy show that the school is still a place where people want to achieve with accumulating knowledge.(142)
But, this aim is disturbed by politics. Indeed, they want to create a society where people live normally together, without problems and hateful. That's why some new school subjects appeared like " civil and social education " and several interventions of people who claim prevention messages.
Finally, school has not longer a aim but aims. (196)

Please, indicate the possible mistakes in blue, and underline what you think is clumsy. for your help!


Un grand pour cette EXPRESSION !
Cependant, merci de ne pas oublier que 130 à 150 mots sont demandés ( + ou - 10%, comme dans les examens. ) [Donc, cette expression est trop longue ... et son auteur avait oublié de compter les mots ... ( je l'ai fait - au moins 3 fois - sans jamais arriver au même compte ! ) Ceci m"a rappelé ma jeunesse lorsque je n'avais pas encore réussi à obtenir tout ce que je voulais de mes élèves ... mais bon ... Merci de m'épargner ce retour vers le passé pas si plaisant que cela ...

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Réponse : RYB /Let's suggest 12 de maxwell, postée le 13-04-2022 à 21:22:56 (S | E)
Hello!
EXPRESSION N°1:

School has always been a strategic place for governments in order to emerge new generations who are conscient about XXX global issues that we currently live XXX. Before the Second World War, the movement of "nazism" understood the importance of school : they should control the youngs at school, making them eat books which are ideological books. If you want to keep a population under control, education at school is the first step. However, current schools are not the same than before : Is the aim of school not longer a place of knowledge ? (90)
First, youngs are more and more educated and want to improve their CV : In France, the rate of students who get the "Baccaulaureat" and continue to higher education was never as high than now. This tendancy show that the school is still a place where people want to achieve with accumulating knowledge.(142)
But, this aim is disturbed by politics. Indeed, they want to create a society where people live normally together, without problems and hateful (je ne suis pas sûr de bien comprendre). That's why some new school subjects appeared like " civil and social education " and several interventions of people who claim prevention messages.
Finally, school has not longer a aim but aims. (196)

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Réponse : RYB /Let's suggest 12 de here4u, postée le 13-04-2022 à 22:53:07 (S | E)
Hello, dears!

Green allowed tomorrow. (you may give your own suggestions of the right ways to express what the writer has written!

for your help!

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Réponse : RYB /Let's suggest 12 de maxwell, postée le 14-04-2022 à 20:35:29 (S | E)
Hello!
EXPRESSION N°1:

School has always been a strategic place for governments in order to emerge new generations who are aware about the global issues that we currently live with. Before the Second World War, the movement of "nazism" understood the importance of school: they could control youth at school, making them take in books which were ideological books. If you want to keep a population under control, education at school is the first step. However, current schools are not the same as before: Is the aim of school no longer to be a place of knowledge? (90)
First, youngs are more and more educated and want to improve their CV: In France, the rate of students who get the "Baccalaureate" and continue to higher education has never been as high as now. This tendency shows that school is still a place where people want to achieve by accumulating knowledge.(142)
Yet this aim is somewhat disturbed by politics. Indeed, they want to create a society where people learn to live together and respect each other. That's why some new school subjects have been introduced such as "civil and social education" and several lectures of contributors who spread prevention messages.
Finally, school has no longer a single aim but several ones. (196)

conscious plutôt que conscient ; j'ai préféré aware

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Réponse : RYB /Let's suggest 12 de here4u, postée le 17-04-2022 à 22:17:19 (S | E)
Hello, dear writers!

EXPRESSION N°1: Prête à recevoir les suggestions finales !

School has always been a strategic place for governments in order to emerge new generations who are aware about the global issues that we currently live with. Before the Second World War, the movement of "nazism" understood the importance of school: they could control youth at school, making them take in books which were ideological books. If you want to keep a population under control, education at school is the first step.* However, current schools are not the same as before: Is the aim of school no longer to be a place of knowledge? (90)
First, youngs are more and more educated and want to improve their CV: In France, the rate of students who get the "Baccalaureate" and continue to higher education has never been as high as now. This tendency shows that school is still a place where people want to achieve by accumulating knowledge.(142) (
Yet this aim is somewhat disturbed by politics (). Indeed, they (who's "they"?) want to create a society where people learn to live together and respect each other. That's why some new school subjects have been introduced such as "civil and social education" and several lectures of contributors who spread prevention messages.
Finally, school has no longer a single aim but several ones. (196)

* Highly debatable!

EXPRESSION N°2:

Pupils are given so much homework that they obviously think the aim of school is to give knowledge. Actually, teachers are asked so much more than just following programs! When we grow up, we realise school gave us an education.
Teachers awaken pupils, develop their intellectual curiosity, make them want to learn. Lessons, homework are useful to keep their brains working, train their memory and their ability to reason. Sports strengthen their stamina and their team spirit. Teachers also awaken students' analytical abilities so that they don't believe everything they are told.
In a nutshell, the aim of school is to convert a child into a young adult who will be able to manage in their professional life. This also requires developing open-mindedness, tolerance, respect for others, sense of community. Yet, we've recently noticed that educators' lives may be in jeopardy when they teach freedom of expression. (150)

Please, indicate possible mistakes in blue and underline what you think is clumsy...

for your help!

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Réponse : RYB /Let's suggest 12 de maxwell, postée le 18-04-2022 à 08:09:25 (S | E)
Hello!
J'ai juste eu une hésitation sur un point alors je fais celui qui "corrige" pour que tu expliques STP si c'est faux ou s'il y a des nuances de sens vu la tournure de la phrase ; "to follow" vs "following"

EXPRESSION N°2:

Pupils are given so much homework that they obviously think the aim of school is to give knowledge. Actually, teachers are asked so much more than just following programs! When we grow up, we realise school gave us an education.
Teachers awaken pupils, develop their intellectual curiosity, make them want to learn. Lessons, homework are useful to keep their brains working, train their memory and their ability to reason. Sports strengthen their stamina and their team spirit. Teachers also awaken students' analytical abilities so that they don't believe everything they are told.
In a nutshell, the aim of school is to convert a child into a young adult who will be able to manage in their professional life. This also requires developing open-mindedness, tolerance, respect for others, sense of community. Yet, we've recently noticed that educators' lives may be in jeopardy when they teach freedom of expression. (150)

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Réponse : RYB /Let's suggest 12 de here4u, postée le 19-04-2022 à 16:44:54 (S | E)
Hello!

Green allowed tonight.

for your help!

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Réponse : RYB /Let's suggest 12 de here4u, postée le 22-04-2022 à 11:43:59 (S | E)
Hello dears,

"No green"? No further suggestions to help your workmate? Too bad...


EXPRESSION N°2: Ready for final suggestions and explanations:

Pupils are given so much homework that they obviously think the aim of school is to give knowledge. Actually, teachers are asked so much more than just following programs! When we grow up, we realise school gave us an education.
Teachers awaken pupils, develop their intellectual curiosity, make them want to learn. Lessons, homework are useful to keep their brains working, train their memory and their ability to reason. Sports strengthen their stamina and their team spirit. Teachers also awaken students' analytical abilities so that they don't believe everything they are told.
In a nutshell, the aim of school is to convert a child into a young adult who will be able to manage in their professional life. This also requires developing open-mindedness, tolerance, respect for others, sense of community. Yet, we've recently noticed that educators' lives may be in jeopardy when they teach freedom of expression. (150)

EXPRESSION N°3:

This is a surprising sentence, but I think it is right and wrong.
It’s wrong because of course the school is a place for recieving and accumulate the knowledge in the books which are every where in scool. The teachers are here to give us all what they know and what we need to have a good job in the life.
But it is right also, because the pupil must learn to become good citizens, men and good woman. He must know to decide, to do choice, to make personnal opinions and to not follow his parents and teachers’s words strictly. He must make him a critical mind. To learn to critic would be indispensable for his life; in effect it is to learn to think (reflex, and choose) that is primordial and it is at school that we may know that. So, I say school brings the both ! 148

Please, indicate possible mistakes in blue and underline what you think is clumsy... Thanks for your effort!

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Réponse : RYB /Let's suggest 12 de maxwell, postée le 22-04-2022 à 20:41:07 (S | E)
Hello!
EXPRESSION N°3:

This is a surprising sentence, but I think it is XXXX right and wrong.
It’s wrong because of course the school is a place for recieving and accumulate the knowledge in the books which are every where in scool. The teachers are here to give us all what(*) they know and what we need to have a good job in the life.
But it is right also, because the pupil must learn to become good citizens, men and good woman. He must know to decide, to do choice, to make personnal opinions and to not follow his parents and teachers’s words strictly. He must make him a critical mind. To learn to critic would be indispensable for his life; in effect it is to learn to think (reflex, and choose) that is primordial and it is at school that we may know that. So, I say school brings the both ! 148

(*) ambiguité : si all se rapporte à us => what est correct. Mais si all introduit ce qui suit => what est faux

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Réponse : RYB /Let's suggest 12 de here4u, postée le 25-04-2022 à 18:32:43 (S | E)
Hello Dears!

Green allowed!


EXPRESSION N°3:

This is a surprising sentence, but I think it is XXXX right and wrong.
It’s wrong because of course the school is a place for recieving and accumulate the knowledge in the books which are every where in scool. The teachers are here to give us all what they know and what we need to have a good job in the life.
But it is right also, because the pupil must learn to become good citizens, men and good woman. He must know to decide, to do choice, to make personnal opinions and to not follow his parents and teachers’s words strictly. He must make him a critical mind. To learn to critic would be indispensable for his life; in effect it is to learn to think (reflex, and choose) that is primordial and it is at school that we may know that. So, I say school brings the both ! 148

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Réponse : RYB /Let's suggest 12 de maxwell, postée le 25-04-2022 à 20:19:23 (S | E)
Hello!

EXPRESSION N°3:

This is a surprising sentence, but I think it is both right and wrong.
It’s wrong because school is obviously a place to acquire the knowledge you can find in all the books you can borrow from the library. Teachers are there to give us all that we need to know for us to have a good job in life.

(*)Nevertheless it's still right, because pupils must learn to become good citizens, well-educated men and women. They must learn to make their own choices, to form personal opinions and not to follow anyone's point of view blindly. Teachers inculcate in their students a critical mind. Learning to have a critical eye is indispensable in life: indeed, learning to think (reflect, and choose) is essential and what better place than school to know that?
Therefore, in my opinion, school brings both! 148

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Réponse : RYB /Let's suggest 12 de here4u, postée le 26-04-2022 à 23:01:37 (S | E)
Hello dears,

Voici les corrections de vos expressions de cette quinzaine ! Merci à nos rédacteurs et correcteurs ...
Quelques points ( et même quelques idées ) auraient besoin d'être éclaircis ... Vous pourrez, bien sûr, le faire si vous le désirez, dans le Follow up Work que vous pouvez ajouter !

Un grand d'avance !

"The aim of school is not to give knowledge, it is to 'educate young minds'."

School has always been a strategic place for governments (in order to emerge new generations who are (conscient (about global issues that we currently live XXXX. Before the Second World War, the movement of "nazism" understood the importance of school: they should control the (youngs at school, making them (eat books which (are ideological books. If you want to keep a population under control, education at school is the first step. However, current schools are not the same (than before: Is (the aim of) school (not longer a place= school ! of knowledge?
First, (youngs are more and more educated and want to improve their CV: In France, the rate of students who get the "Bacca(ulaureat" and continue to higher education was never as high (than now. This tend(ancy (show that (the school is still a place where people want to achieve with accumulating knowledge.
But, this aim is disturbed by politics( ??). Indeed, they(Who’s «they»?) want to create a society where people live normally together, without problems and (hateful. That's why some new school subjects XXXX appeared like "civil and social education" (this isn’t «new» !)and several interventions of people who (claim prevention messages.
Finally, school has no(t longer (a aim but aims.


EXPRESSION N°1: ready for further suggestions!

School has always been a strategic place for governments in order to emerge new generations who are aware about the global issues that we currently live with. Before the Second World War, the movement of "nazism" understood the importance of school: they could control youth at school, making them take in books which were ideological books. If you want to keep a population under control, education at school is the first step.* However, current schools are not the same as before: Is the aim of school no longer to be a place of knowledge? (90)
First, (youngs are more and more educated and want to improve their CV: In France, the rate of students who get the "Baccalaureate" and continue to higher education has never been as high as now. This tendency shows that school is still a place where people want to achieve by accumulating knowledge.(142) (
Yet this aim is somewhat disturbed by politics ( ). Indeed, they (who's "they"?) want to create a society where people learn to live together and respect each other. That's why some new school subjects have been introduced such as "civil and social education" and several lectures of contributors who spread prevention messages.
Finally, school has no longer a single aim but several ones. (196)

- Un peu étonnée que nos lecteurs-correcteurs n’aient pas repéré quelques maladresses « qui n’auraient pas dû passer » !
- governments (in order) to emerge new generations who are aware about the global issues : de toute évidence, notre rédacteur voulait dire « afin qu’émergent de nouvelles générations qui seront conscientes des problèmes mondiaux avec lesquels … » Il s’agit donc de corriger cette construction en enlevant «in order to emerge»: afin d’émerger/ sortir/ apparaître/ Le mot de liaison doit donc être modifié. Il existe plusieurs constructions possibles ! Si vous le voulez, vous pourrez les suggérer toutes au moment du Follow up Work!
- revoir la construction de : to be aware/ conscious/
- to take in: pas vraiment le sens … Lien internet
mais à la rigueur, je laisserais passer «take in books» au sens d’ingurgiter, absorber …
- En revanche, je ne PEUX PAS et ne VEUX pas laisser passer : «If you want to keep a population under control, education at school is the first step.» Si l’on ne connaît pas le système scolaire occidental, on peut, à la rigueur « penser » cela … mais en tant qu’enseignante qui donne et ai toujours donné à chacun la possibilité de s’exprimer, discuter, corriger ce qui se dit/ disait dans mes cours et devoirs, je réfute la formulation de cette phrase avec véhémence. L’éducation est le vecteur de la liberté. Ce sont les livres (parfois qualifiés de « subversifs ») qui véhiculent les idées de liberté et de qui contribuent souvent à la libération et au développement personnel … (Cf des livres (et films) comme Fahreinheit 451/ the Narrative of the life of Frederic Douglas: an American slave – où il est dit – et démontré que -«Education is the pathway to Freedom» et tant d’autres ont exprimé cette idée – tous nos philosophes des Lumières … etc.)
- « young » est un adjectif, qui doit donc rester invariable. Ici, dans le texte, il semble être substantivé (employé comme nom qui représente un groupe de personnes) Bien revoir la leçon : Lien internet



EXPRESSION N°2:

Pupils are given so much homework that they obviously think the aim of school is to give knowledge. Actually, teachers are asked so much more than just (following programs! When we grow up, we realise school gave us an education.
Teachers awaken pupils, develop their intellectual curiosity, make them want to learn. Lessons, homework are useful to keep their brains working, train their memory and their ability to reason. Sports strengthen their stamina and their team spirit. Teachers also awaken students' analytical abilities so that they don't believe everything they are told.
In a nutshell, the aim of school is to convert a child into a young adult who will be able to manage in their professional life. This also requires developing open-mindedness, tolerance, respect for others, sense of community. Yet, we've recently noticed that educators' lives may be in jeopardy when they teach freedom of expression. (150)


EXPRESSION N°2: ready for final suggestions and explanations:

Pupils are given so much homework that they obviously think the aim of school is to give knowledge. Actually, teachers are asked so much more than just (following programs! When we grow up, we realise school gave us an education.
Teachers awaken pupils, develop their intellectual curiosity, make them want to learn. Lessons, homework are useful to keep their brains working, train their memory and their ability to reason. Sports strengthen their stamina and their team spirit. Teachers also awaken students' analytical abilities so that they don't believe everything they are told.
In a nutshell, the aim of school is to convert a child into a young adult who will be able to manage in their professional life. This also requires developing open-mindedness, tolerance, respect for others, sense of community. Yet, we've recently noticed that educators' lives may be in jeopardy when they teach freedom of expression. (150) C'est une TB expression!

- "Teachers awaken pupils", me semble un peu péremptoire et radical … et revient à dire que les parents et la société n'ont aucun rôle dans l'éducation et l'épanouissement des jeunes. (to develop an interest in/ to awaken the interest of students/ to foster in students an interest in / stimulate young people's interest in/ to stimulate the students’ interest. /
- «free expression» me semblerait plus naturel pour la dernière phrase.


EXPRESSION N°3:

"The aim of school is not to give knowledge, it is to 'educate young minds'."
This is a surprising sentence, but I think it is right and wrong.
It’s wrong because of course the school is a place for recieving and accumulate the knowledge in the books which are every where in scool. The teachers are here to give us all what they know and what we need to have a good job in the life.
But it is right also, because the pupil must learn to become good citizens, men and good woman. He must know to decide, to do choice, to make personnal opinions and to not follow his parents and teachers’s words strictly. He must make him a critical mind. To learn to critic would be indispensable for his life; in effect, it is to learn to think, (reflex, and choose) that is primordial and it is at school that we may know that. So, I say school brings the both! 148

EXPRESSION N°3: ready for final suggestions and explanations:


This is a surprising sentence, but I think it is both right and wrong.
It’s wrong because school is obviously a place to acquire the knowledge you can find in all the books you can borrow from the library. Teachers are there to give us all that we need to know for us to have a good job in life.
Nevertheless it's still right, because pupils must learn to become good citizens, well-educated men and women. They must learn to make their own choices, to form personal opinions and not to follow anyone's point of view blindly. Teachers inculcate in their students a critical mind. Learning to have a critical eye is indispensable in life: indeed, learning to think (reflect, and choose) is essential and what better place than school to know that?
Therefore, in my opinion, school brings both! 148 Une bonne correction ! Bravo !


- it is XXXX right and wrong : "à la fois" s'imposait …
- the school is a place for recieving : l’école en général.
- For receiving : conséquence (he was punished for cheating) ici, il faut un but …
- the knowledge in the books which are every where in scool: phrase très maladroite. La couper et l’éclaircir …
- The teachers: les professeurs en général.
- Here: l’endroit où l’on se trouve … changer la formulation qui est maladroite.
- «what»: ce que // tout ce que : "all that".
- La vie en général …
- C’est vrai aussi … also ne convient pas.
- The pupil: un élève déterminé en particulier ; ici, on a besoin « des élèves » (en général).
- «Good» doit s’appliquer à « hommes » et « femmes » (au pluriel).
- Savoir faire : know how to…
- « faire un choix » : mauvais choix de verbe.
- «Personnal»: faute d’orthographe.
- « de ne pas suivre les paroles de ses parents et de ses professeurs … » réfléchir à qui « appartiennent » les paroles …
- A qui appartient « ses » ?
- « critiquer » ??? Donner toutes les possibilités d'exprimer ce verbe avec une petite explication ...


Bon courage, donc, pour le Follow up Work (facultatif !) Encore bravo et à tous!

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Réponse : RYB /Let's suggest 12 de maxwell, postée le 27-04-2022 à 07:52:25 (S | E)
Hello!

EXPRESSION N°1:

School has always been a strategic place for governments to make new generations become aware of the global issues that we currently live with. Before the Second World War, the movement of "nazism" understood the importance of school: they could control youth at school, making them take in books which were ideological books. In some dictatorial nations where leaders want to keep a population under control, education at school is the first step(*). However, in our countries, current schools are not the same as before: Is the aim of school no longer to be a place of knowledge?
First, the young are more and more educated and want to improve their CV: in France, the rate of students who get the "Baccalaureate" and continue to higher education has never been as high as now. This tendency shows that school is still a place where people want to achieve by accumulating knowledge.
Yet this is not the only aim followed by politics. Indeed, in Western countries, politics want to create a society where people learn to live together and respect each other. That's why some new school subjects have been introduced such as "civil and social education" and several lectures of contributors who spread prevention messages.
Finally, school has no longer a single aim but several ones. (196)

(*) cette phrase qui t'a indignée faisait à mon avis plutôt écho à la phrase précédente qu'au système occidental.


EXPRESSION N°2:

Pupils are given so much homework that if you asked them, they would say the aim of school is to give knowledge. Actually, teachers are asked so much more than just following(*) programs! When we grow up, we realise school gave us an education.
Teachers awaken the interest of students, develop their intellectual curiosity, make them want to learn. Lessons, homework are useful to keep their brains working, train their memory and their ability to reason. Sports strengthen their stamina and their team spirit. Teachers also develop students' analytical skills so that they don't believe everything they are told.
In a nutshell, the aim of school is to convert a child into a young adult who will be able to manage in their professional life (**). This also requires developing open-mindedness, tolerance, respect for others, sense of community. Yet, we've recently noticed (**) that educators' lives may be in jeopardy when they teach free expression.

(*) J'aimerais avoir ton point de vue entre following et to follow STP
(**) je n'ai pas compris ce qui n'allait pas


EXPRESSION N°3:


This is a surprising sentence, but I think it is both right and wrong.
It’s wrong because school is obviously a place to acquire knowledge by reading books from the library(*). Teachers are there to give us all that we need to know for us to have a good job in life.
Nevertheless it's still right, because pupils must learn to become good citizens, well-educated men and women. They must learn to make their own choices, to form personal opinions and not to follow anyone's point of view blindly. Teachers inculcate in their students a critical thinking. Learning to have a critical eye is indispensable in life: indeed, learning to think (reflect, and choose) is essential and what better place than school to know that?
Therefore, in my opinion, school brings both!

(*) j'ai changé mais je n'ai pas compris ce qui n'allait pas dans ma correction

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Réponse : RYB /Let's suggest 12 de maxwell, postée le 02-05-2022 à 20:32:35 (S | E)
Hello Here4U
I know you're very busy but I'd appreciate if you would take a look at this follow-up work and correct these suggestions

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Réponse : RYB /Let's suggest 12 de here4u, postée le 03-05-2022 à 10:01:58 (S | E)
Hi Max!
I have already «taken a look» at this FupW, but couldn’t find the opportunity to correct it! ( I need my computer…)
I promise I’ll do it asap but as you suppose, I’m VERY BUSY just now… ( and accused of neglecting my family …)
Icare is still waiting for a correction I had promised for Monday ( and couldn’t do! ). I hope I’ll be able to find some alone and quiet time today ( most certainly tonight) to catch up!

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Réponse : RYB /Let's suggest 12 de here4u, postée le 03-05-2022 à 13:59:11 (S | E)
Puff, puff!

In a hurry while some are napping and others reading or doing whatever they fancy... (Not sure to finish!)

EXPRESSION N°1: re reading the Follow up Work

School has always been a strategic place for governments to make/ help new generations become aware of the global issues that we currently live with. Before the Second World War, the movement of "nazism" understood the importance of school: they could control youth at school, making them take in books which were ideological books(ones). In some dictatorial nations where leaders want to keep a population under control, education at school is the first step(*). However, in our countries, current schools are not the same as before: Is the aim of school no longer to be a place of knowledge?
First, the young/ young people are more and more educated and want to improve their CV: in France, the rate of students who get the "Baccalauréat" and continue to higher education (start College or University/ start vocational training) has never been as high as now. This tendency shows that school is still a place where people want to achieve by accumulating (acquiring?) knowledge.
Yet this is not the only aim followed by politics. Indeed, in Western countries, politics want (What do you mean?) to create a society where people learn to live together and respect each other. That's why some new school subjects have been introduced such as "civil and social education" and several lectures of contributors who spread prevention messages.
Finally, school has no longer a single aim but several ones. (196)

(*) cette phrase qui t'a indignée faisait à mon avis plutôt écho à la phrase précédente qu'au système occidental.It may do, but I don't like it!

EXPRESSION N°2:

Pupils are given so much homework that if you asked them, they would say the aim of school is to give knowledge. Actually, teachers are asked so much more than just following(*)to follow programs! When we grow up, we realise school gave(j'en ferais un bilan d'action ...) us an education.
Teachers awaken the interest of students, develop their intellectual curiosity, make them want to learn. Lessons, homework are useful to keep their brains working, train their memory and their ability to reason. Sports strengthen their stamina and their team spirit. Teachers also help develop students' analytical skills so that they don't believe everything they are told.
In a nutshell, the aim of school is to convert (a child into a young adult who will be able to manage in their professional life (**)Pour moins de maladresse, je mettrais tout au pluriel de généralité ...). This also requires developing open-mindedness, tolerance, respect for others, sense of community. Yet, we've recently noticed (**) that educators' lives may be in jeopardy when they teach free expression.

(*) J'aimerais avoir ton point de vue entre following et to follow STP (I think the gerund is false!)
(**) je n'ai pas compris ce qui n'allait pas (OK maintenant ? L'Ecole a certes un but individuel, mais aussi un but collectif !)



EXPRESSION N°3:

This is a surprising sentence, but I think it is both right and wrong.
It’s wrong because school is obviously a place to acquire knowledge by reading books from the library(*). Teachers are there to give us all that we need to know for us to have a good job in life. (If only!)
Nevertheless it's still right, because pupils must learn to become good citizens, well-educated men and women. They must learn to make their own choices, to form personal opinions and not to follow anyone's point of view blindly. Teachers inculcate in their students a critical thinking (vocabulaire et ordre des mots!). Learning to have a critical eye is indispensable in life: indeed, learning to think (reflect, and choose) is essential and what better place than school to know that?
Therefore, in my opinion, school brings both!

(*) j'ai changé mais je n'ai pas compris ce qui n'allait pas dans ma correction
Je trouve ton mot "library" très réducteur ... Tous les livres, tous les documents, différents supports, surtout maintenant, apportent des connaissances ... pas seulement les livres, et encore moins uniquement ceux de ??? la bibliothèque ? le CDI? d'un lieu d'éducation ...)

I did it!

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